This shouldn't be news but it is. More than seven months after losing the election to Joe Biden, Donald Trump finally admitted he didn't win the election.
“Shockingly, we were supposed to win easily at 64 million votes, and we got 75 million votes, and we didn't win,” Trump said in a rambling phone interview Wednesday night with Fox News’ Sean Hannity. “But let's see what happens on that.” Joe Biden got 81 million votes.
Trump didn't quite say "I lost" or "I didn't win"; he spread the blame for defeat around by saying "we didn't win". In a quote attributed to John F. Kennedy, it is said "victory has a thousand fathers, but defeat is an orphan.
As noted in another article in The SelectSmart.com Post ‘He’s screwed over so many publishers’: Trump confronts a skeptical book industry, book publishers are reluctant to publish the memoirs of a former US president who cannot even admit he was defeated in the election: “[I]t would be too hard to get a book that was factually accurate, actually,” said one major figure in the book publishing industry, explaining their reluctance to publish Trump. “That would be the problem. If he can’t even admit that he lost the election, then how do you publish that?”
Politico reported the publisher remarks earlier this week. They also reported how unusual it is for a former president not to have a book deal lined up soon after leaving office. Even Jared Kushner landed a deal for a book about his White House experience. Perhaps Trump got the message so he finally admitted the obvious.
Trump's admission to Sean Hannity must have come as a quite a shock to the 53% of Republicans who still believe that Trump actually won the election. Trump did provide these deadenders a glimmer of home with the vague comment, “but let's see what happens on that.”
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by Donna on June 19, 2021 2:18 pm Ironically the overwhelming majority of Trump's own followers still don't acknowledge the obvious.
By the way, I'd like to thank Curt Anderson for all the years of fun (and often aggravation) I've had posting on the now defunct political forum. I may not have changed many minds, but the forum gave me an opportunity to sharpen my rhetorical skills. I was sad for me to see it go, but on the other hand it had become a sort of addiction.
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by HatetheSwamp on June 26, 2021 2:05 pm I've refrained from commenting on this one, Curt. I watched, on YouTube, the exchange between Trump and Hannity when Trump phoned in the Hannity Show on Fox. I didn't hear anything even close to what you're reporting.
At this moment, 4:00ish, I'm watching coverage of the Saturday Ohio Trump rally on RSBN. Trump isn't scheduled to arrive for three hours. People are saying that the first people showed up on MONDAY.
The word from people who could be considered spokespeople for Trump are saying, "Forget 2022 or 2024, the focus is on 2020. That election was stolen and, before we're finished, the Supreme Court will vote for us 9-0!
I'm not picking up any sense that Trump's acknowledging that he didn't win.
If you can provide a link to a video...
by Curt Anderson on June 26, 2021 2:31 pm The first link is a video (of Trump on the phone) telling Hannity "we didn't win".
Subsequently, I heard Trump say he didn't lose because he didn't concede. We could have the twice the number of sports champions if the apparent loser(s) refused to concede their loss. twitter.com miamiherald.com
by HatetheSwamp on June 26, 2021 2:37 pm "We got 75 (million) and we didn't win and we'll see how that goes."
Based on what I'm hearing today, of all the things that might mean, I don't think it means that we lost.
by HatetheSwamp on June 26, 2021 2:41 pm BTW, Trump chose this location in Ohio because he's going to endorse a GOP in the Primary, to oppose one of the House GOPs who voted for impeachment.
by Curt Anderson on June 26, 2021 3:08 pm In another thread, I pointed out how Trump has undermined the GOP. He convinced his supporters to not vote by mail which cost him Georgia and probably other states. He has convinced his gullible supporters that elections are rigged so that 21% of Republicans are now less inclined to vote.
Now he's making his endorsements (and lack of) a personal vendetta against candidates with whom he has a grudge. Trump very well could influence the Republican primaries, but his impact on the general election will be significantly less. That Ohio Republican who voted to impeach probably had a good handle on the views of his constituents.
by HatetheSwamp on June 26, 2021 3:24 pm No doubt, Curt.
Trump is despicable.
But, who, in our lifetimes, has been a more fascinating political figure?
As far as Georgia is concerned, Brad Raffensperger is batty. Trump got oodles of votes in Georgia. It's the questionable Dem votes that are the issue...
...and ol Brad won't admit that the chicanery was empowered by him.
by Curt Anderson on June 26, 2021 3:53 pm Fascinating isn't what I want from a politician. Hitler, Richard III and John Wilkes Booth make fascinating historical figures lists.
by HatetheSwamp on June 26, 2021 4:01 pm Oh? You don't support Trump? How did I get that wrong? Bahahahaha, ahhhhhh!
by HatetheSwamp on June 26, 2021 5:16 pm Curt, et.al.,
I'm watching Trump's speech. As far as I can tell, the pants are not on backwards.
by Curt Anderson on June 26, 2021 5:45 pm I watched long enough to hear Trump forget the name of Mount Rushmore, "the faces" and say that Kim Jong Un likes him, "that's a good thing".
by HatetheSwamp on June 27, 2021 4:01 am Did you notice how large the crowd was!!!!!?
Newsmax put the last seven minutes of the speech on YouTube. I'll link that here later on. One thing Trump's speech writers do very well is get Trump to repeat all the high points of his speeches as he concludes. You should watch it. Lots of red meat...consumed ravenously. Knowing you, Curt, you'll bust a gut over the Neil Armstrong part. You'd better empty your bladder before you watch.
One thing of note: Trump said directly that this rally was the first of the 022 campaign and that's he's going to fight for GOPs to win the House and the Senate.
He also joked that this is good news for some cable networks.
I think Brian Stelter's job may be safe, after all.
by HatetheSwamp on June 27, 2021 4:22 am The ending of the speech...
by Curt Anderson on June 27, 2021 9:01 am "Knowing you, Curt, you'll bust a gut over the Neil Armstrong part." -- HTS
I won't be able to watch the video of Trump's entire speech as I my sock drawer needs rearranging. What did he say about Neil Armstrong?
by HatetheSwamp on June 27, 2021 9:16 am It's in the last seven minutes.
by Curt Anderson on June 27, 2021 10:00 am Trump: …and sent a brave young man from Ohio to a plant. Think of it. You know who the man I'm talking about is?
I am pretty sure he didn't know. Maybe it the was that nearly shuttered plant in Lordstown, Ohio that Trump used to tout. hillreporter.com
by HatetheSwamp on June 27, 2021 11:36 am I heard planet.
by Curt Anderson on June 27, 2021 11:56 am I heard planet.--HTS
Then he still got it wrong. The Moon is not a planet.
by HatetheSwamp on June 27, 2021 12:02 pm Exactly!
by Indy! on June 27, 2021 12:18 pm Hey guys - what's up? So Curt finally managed to kill the board. Too bad - had a lot of fun there over the years, met some interesting people and had a lot of interesting conversations. I suppose I should offer a politically correct "apology" and say if I ever offended anyone with some of my takes or comments - I'm sorry - it was all in good fun.
Curt? You did a great job! On top of that - you put up with me no matter how much I tweaked you, especially in the post-Bernie era. Always thought I'd get you to ban me eventually - but you held up like a trooper. You're a better man than I. Thanks for all the work you put in and the effort to keep your cool when we razzed you.
Anyway, sorry the board is down. Here's a thought - if you want to keep the gang together, there's a site - Proboards.com - that allows you to make similar BBSs for free. I had one for awhile but I'm not the administrator type. If anyone is interested my email is firstname.lastname@example.org
by Curt Anderson on June 27, 2021 12:45 pm Indy,
Thanks a lot! You've been a great counterpoint to me and others at the old hang-out. I regret some of the snarky comments I made to you and others.
With you, Rube, Islander and me. We are getting close to a quorum here. Donna made a guest appearance last week. Maybe we will all manage to regroup here.
I am disinclined to get another off-the-shelf discussion board for the same reason I dropped the old discussion board. Mainly I can't massage the look and feel of it, there are security issues, it isn't compatible with the login for SelectSmart.com's other features (making selectors, etc.) And in the case of the old discussion board a couple of weeks ago, it was causing the entire site to crash. I didn't mind that the forum didn't make any money, but I am not into losing money.