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US kills al Qaeda leader Ayman al-Zawahiri in drone strike in Afghanistan

By Curt_Anderson
August 1, 2022 4:55 pm
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Biden deserves as much credit for this as he does blame for our withdrawal from Afghanistan.

Reportedly this was a CIA operation. Al-Zawahiri was on his balcony when he breathed his last. He was the house guest of a Taliban government official. No other people were killed according to reports. We don't have a military presence in Afghanistan.

(CNN)The United States killed al Qaeda leader Ayman al-Zawahiri in a drone strike, President Joe Biden said Monday in a speech from the White House.

Zawahiri, who just turned 71 years old, had remained a visible international symbol of the group, 11 years after the US killed Osama bin Laden. At one point, he acted as bin Laden's personal physician.

Zawahiri was sheltering in a safehouse in Kabul, according to the official, and was killed in "a precise tailored airstrike" using two Hellfire missiles. The drone strike was conducted at 9:48 p.m. ET on Saturday was authorized by Biden following weeks of meetings with his Cabinet and key advisers. No American personnel were on the ground in Kabul at the time of the strike.

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  1. by Donna on August 2, 2022 12:42 pm
    I'm sure that the right-wing media has been working day and night to come up with an angle that paints Biden as having gone about the assassination wrong. If they're unable to do that, then they'll downplay it. I'm sure that Hts or od will promptly post on whatever they come up with.


  2. by oldedude on August 2, 2022 12:55 pm
    Haven't seen any at all. We're all glad this azzhole's gone. "Democratic and Republican lawmakers praised the operation and the US security officials who took part, though some Republicans said it underscored al-Qaeda’s ability to operate in Afghanistan." (financial times)

    There are two sides to using drones or strike team. Each one has pluses and minuses. My preference is to have a team do it. That way you have evidence and the Intel (coin flip as to which is more important). But either way, we'll just watch Abd al-Rahman al-Maghrebi move in to the role. It would be great for a quick punch to him if possible. THAT would be some creds.
    ft.com


  3. by HatetheSwamp on August 2, 2022 1:20 pm

    The only thing that the right is pointing out is that he was living in comfort in Kabul to which the Doddering Old Fool handed the Taliban the keys as a result of his inept withdrawal from Afghanistan.

    But, the deed itself, both sides are cheering.


  4. by Curt_Anderson on August 2, 2022 1:27 pm
    HtS, your operative words are "he was living".


  5. by Donna on August 2, 2022 1:36 pm
    "... the Doddering Old Fool handed the Taliban the keys as a result of his inept withdrawal from Afghanistan."

    I knew the right-wing media wouldn't let the assassination of al-Zawahiri go without manufacturing a reason to piss on it.

    Here's what Bradley Devlin over at The Daily Caller has to say about that:

    US Military Destroying Equipment They’re Leaving Behind In Afghanistan


    dailycaller.com


  6. by HatetheSwamp on August 2, 2022 3:27 pm

    Donna, no one's pi$$ing on it but America remembers the ignomimy of "that feckless dementia-ridden piece of crap's" brainless withdrawal from Afghanistan.


  7. by Curt_Anderson on August 2, 2022 4:03 pm
    HtS,
    You have to admit that with the ratio of Al Qaeda to US military personnel killed has greatly improved in the last 11 months.


  8. by Curt_Anderson on August 2, 2022 4:03 pm
    HtS,
    You have to admit that with the ratio of Al Qaeda to US military personnel killed has greatly improved in the last 11 months.


  9. by oldedude on August 2, 2022 6:33 pm

    "I knew the right-wing media wouldn't let the assassination of al-Zawahiri go without manufacturing a reason to piss on it.

    Here's what Bradley Devlin over at The Daily Caller has to say about that:

    US Military Destroying Equipment They’re Leaving Behind In Afghanistan"

    Interesting. I didn't even see al Zawahiri mentioned in that....

    You have to admit that with the ratio of Al Qaeda to US military personnel killed has greatly improved in the last 11 months.
    I agree. If you're talking about the Taliban doing what they usually do (making opium, using children as sex slaves, murdering gays by throwing them off buildings, murdering lesbians by stoning to death, having husbands murder their wives for being "indecent" when the Taliban broke in to their houses.... Yeah, all of that was left open. I guess those little brown people don't make a fuckbit of difference to you, eh?


  10. by Curt_Anderson on August 2, 2022 7:06 pm
    Afghanistan. A new Penal Code enacted in February 2018 explicitly criminalises same-sex sexual conduct.[citation needed] Sources cited by the International Lesbian, Gay, Bisexual, Trans and Intersex Association (ILGBTIA) indicate that there is a "broad consensus amongst scholars that execution was the appropriate punishment if homosexual acts could be proven".[2]: 429  The sharia category of zina (illicit sexual intercourse), which according to some traditional Islamic legal schools may entail the hadd (sharia-prescribed) punishment of stoning, when strict evidential requirements are met. The Hanafi school, prevalent in Afghanistan, does not regard homosexual acts as a hadd crime, although Afghan judges may potentially apply the death penalty for a number of reasons.


  11. by oldedude on August 2, 2022 8:41 pm
    Curt- This is pretty much a standard in the Muslim world, although many are more tolerant. Oman for example. The OPEC tends to look contact behind doors okayish. The Taliban are the extremists in this genre. So that is not any type of surprise, although it underscores the the difference between the US and many countries.


  12. by Curt_Anderson on August 2, 2022 9:58 pm
    OD,
    My point is that homosexuality was a capital offense in 2018. That's when our military was there and we had some say in Afghanistan's politics. Afghanistan sucks now, but it was always sucked. A lot of countries suck. A lot of horrible things happen in a lot of countries. I don't believe that we, America, should feel obliged to send our military in to "fix" every benighted nation. 20 years was long enough.

    I also have this theory that every country to some degree gets the government they want and deserve. If the people of Afghanistan resisted the Taliban anything like Ukraine resists Russia we'd have a different story there.



  13. by oldedude on August 3, 2022 6:49 am
    Curt- Okay, I'll agree, although the reality is there is no place in Afghanistan now that will NOT uphold the death penalty. Second agreement. They're getting what they "fought" for. I think we needed to get those that fought beside us for years out if they wanted to go. That said, you never knew who you were talking to. The only exception to this that I found were the terps.

    I am also one of those people that agree with you on the Ukraine. My view is that we should have "advisors" embedded and start turning this from a loose chain of command to a very succent, faster to respond national army. I think the Russians are not doing well at the least. If this is protracted, I wonder how many will defect to the Ukranian military. You've seen the number of American prior military assisting the Ukrainians. That's because we're tired of trying to be in countries that hate us or leaving the ones that like us (ala Thailand, Hmong, Kurds). These folks want a free country. That's worth giving your life for.


  14. by Curt_Anderson on August 3, 2022 8:57 pm
    OD,
    🍻


  15. by Curt_Anderson on August 3, 2022 9:21 pm
    OD,
    Regarding your comments about the US training the Ukrainians...

    U.S. Troops Train Ukrainians in Germany
    That training effort has been key to Ukraine's stout defense of its capital city of Kyiv and the fight they are putting up in Donbas. The training helped transform Ukraine from a Soviet-style military to a more agile and deadly force. "They have better command and control," Kirby said. "They have better battlefield initiative. They have a competent noncommissioned officer corps that is empowered on the field of battle to make tactical decisions. That didn't happen by accident."

    The bulk of the training on the new systems Ukraine is getting will be performed by the Florida Guardsmen. They can, of course, call on Army units in Germany to assist if they need it, the press secretary said.
    defense.gov


  16. by oldedude on August 4, 2022 5:33 am
    I knew about them, I was thinking a presence in country. But thanks.


  17. by Donna on August 4, 2022 12:16 pm
    I'm in full agreement with you guys on Ukraine.


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