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DC police officer in Trump Jan. 6 motorcade corroborates Cassidy Hutchinson's testimony

By Curt_Anderson
July 15, 2022 10:10 am
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(CNN)A Washington, DC, police officer has corroborated to the House select committee investigating January 6, 2021, details regarding a heated exchange former President Donald Trump had with his Secret Service detail when he was told he could not go to the US Capitol after his rally, a source familiar with the matter tells CNN.

The officer with the Metropolitan Police Department was in the motorcade with the Secret Service for Trump on January 6 and recounted what was seen to committee investigators, according to the source.




The DC police officer testified about events he witnessed on January 6th. Explain again why Tony Ornato and others in the Secret Service who allegedly are eager to dispute Hutchinson's testimony have not testified.

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Comments on "DC police officer in Trump Jan. 6 motorcade corroborates Cassidy Hutchinson's testimony":

  1. by HatetheSwamp on July 15, 2022 10:31 am

    If this is true, and we have only an uncorroborated SwampMedia account, this actually points to the problem millions of people just like pb have with the Committee.

    Why waste America's time with a gossip-based account, detailing rumors, when firsthand testimony is available?

    Again: pb hopes all of this, and more, is true. There's just no reason for a thinking person to believe it.


  2. by Curt_Anderson on July 15, 2022 10:46 am
    "Why?" --HtS

    Because this is an investigation not a trial. What you think of as gossip and rumors are what investigators call leads. Those with only secondhand accounts won't be called to testify in a criminal trial.

    Rumors and gossip may or may not be true. It then becomes the job of prosecutors to verify the information by finding people who can give firsthand testimony and/or find evidence that verifies the secondhand accounts. I mentioned in another post my experience giving police a secondhand account of a mugging.

    When Ornato testified earlier before the committee, they wouldn't have thought to ask if Trump lunged for the steering wheel, nor would Ornato (a Trump loyalist) have been likely to volunteer the information.


  3. by HatetheSwamp on July 15, 2022 10:56 am

    Maybe it hasn't gotten to you, up there in Ashland, but people on the right are still guffawing over the fact that, before the sun set on Ms Hutchinson's testimony, NBC and CBS were reporting that the Secret Service agents involved wanted to testify under oath that the story is poppycock.

    Heck. Even Fox covered that brouhaha for days. Gutfeld got nearly a week's worth of monologs out of it!

    For the cause of Trump hate, Ms Hutchinson's testimony was counterproductive. The right, to this day, only thinks of that fiasco when it thinks of the J6 Committee.

    If there'd been an eyewitness account from a police officer?, the right would never have, for a moment, doubted.


  4. by Curt_Anderson on July 15, 2022 11:05 am
    "Secret Service agents involved wanted to testify under oath" according to anonymous sources yet for some unknown reason have not. Maybe they were too busy deleted text messages.



  5. by HatetheSwamp on July 15, 2022 11:13 am

    Maybe Lizzy's gang doesn't want to hear them tell their stories.


  6. by Curt_Anderson on July 15, 2022 11:52 am
    Two weeks ago I wrote that the right is overly obsessed with the Trump misbehaving in the SUV story which is a minor incident among the serious crimes being investigated. See link.


    selectsmart.com


  7. by HatetheSwamp on July 15, 2022 11:58 am

    You did for a fact. I'm pretty sure that I retorted that the issue for the right is the fiasco that had NBC and CBS reporting that Ms Hutchinson's testimony had been rebuked before the day was over.

    Of the two of us, I am bang on.


  8. by Curt_Anderson on July 15, 2022 12:08 pm
    "Rebuked"? Of course Trumpworld rebuked it! It's hardly a surprise that they disapproved of Hutchinson's testimony. It painted a picture of Trump acting like a spoiled toddler throwing his plate against the wall and acting up in the SUV. Rebuke the testimony? Yes. Dispute the testimony under oath? No.

    So far we in the public have learned that a police officer's testimony corroborating her testimony. We also know that Pat Cipollone did not dispute Hutchinson's testimony.


  9. by HatetheSwamp on July 15, 2022 1:02 pm

    Her testimony was "rebuked" by the two Secret Service agents who are the only people, besides OrangeMan, who know what happened.

    As for, It painted a picture of Trump acting like a spoiled toddler throwing his plate against the wall and acting up in the SUV. Rebuke the testimony?

    Believe me when I say this. If Trump is elected in 024, it will be because of the votes of people who have known for years that he's an SOB...your "spoiled little toddler."

    I concluded about the time of the second televised interview that these hearings aren't about J6, they've settled on proving that Trump's an SOB...and, we already knew that.


  10. by oldedude on July 15, 2022 9:22 pm
    Lead,
    It's "interesting" the left says "we" are infatuated with the story, but it's "curt" that always brings it up... I wonder...


  11. by Donna on July 15, 2022 11:43 pm
    House January 6 panel subpoenas Secret Service for allegedly deleted text messages

    "The House select committee investigating the Capitol attack has issued a subpoena to the US Secret Service for text messages from 5 January and 6 January 2021 understood to have been erased, pursuing what investigators suspect might be an instance of corruptly destroyed records."

    Because Lizzy's gang doesn't want to hear them tell their stories. LOL!

    msn.com


  12. by HatetheSwamp on July 16, 2022 3:24 am

    Donna,

    C'mon Jack! Read the polls!

    Oh, and, BTW, thanks for copying and pasting. See? You can do it.

    Because Lizzy's gang doesn't want to hear them tell their stories. LOL!

    But, this is actually the point. They want text messages beginning the day BEFORE. The Committee doesn't want their testimony regarding what happened in the SUV.

    This is such a sham.

    And, the thing is, pb thinks that Trump is despicable. If there's a there there, pb wants to find it, though he's doubtful.

    But, because of the way the Committee has chosen to conduct itself. Many people will always be cynical about it...

    ...and with good reason.


  13. by Donna on July 16, 2022 7:55 am
    Members of the committee have expressed frustration with aspects of Ornato's previous testimony, and some have suggested he lacks credibility.

    Florida Rep. Stephanie Murphy, a Democratic member of the committee, told NBC that Ornato was evasive with the committee about the incident in question.

    "Ornato did not have as clear of memories from this period of time as I would say Ms. Hutchinson did," she said.

    Rep. Adam Kinzinger, an Illinois Republican who also serves on the panel, pointed to other former White House staffers claiming Ornato lied about their interactions with him.

    "There seems to be a major thread here... Tony Ornato likes to lie," Kinzinger wrote on Twitter.

    ***

    That's why they wanted to see those text messages.
    cnn.com


  14. by HatetheSwamp on July 16, 2022 8:19 am

    Yeah, we covered Kinzinger's claim, "He lies a lot."


  15. by Donna on July 16, 2022 8:30 am
    He could have lied to Cassidy Hutchinson.


  16. by oldedude on July 16, 2022 8:33 am
    "Members of the committee have expressed frustration with aspects of Ornato's previous testimony, and some have suggested he lacks credibility."

    TRANSLATION: "It isn't the answer we wanted."


  17. by HatetheSwamp on July 16, 2022 8:43 am

    He could have lied to Cassidy Hutchinson.

    Exactly.

    That's one possibility. Among others.

    That's why an honest investigation doesn't entertain hearsay, nor listen to gossip nor rumor, nor disallow cross examination.

    All of this brouhaha could have been unnecessary.


  18. by Donna on July 16, 2022 12:05 pm
    TRANSLATION: "It isn't the answer we wanted." - od

    Well you know, that's because they're George Soros Marxists, follow Bill Ayers, are satanic, and drink the blood of aborted fetuses.


  19. by Donna on July 25, 2022 8:19 pm
    Neither Ornato nor Engel have not spoke to the Jan 6th committee under oath.

    ***

    Officials who disputed Cassidy Hutchinson bombshell testimony were Trump's "yes men": report

    Ornato, Engel, and the unidentified driver of Trump's vehicle have since hired private counsel, Rep. Zoe Lofgren, D-Calif., told reporters last week.

    "Some of the officers said that they would be coming and talking under oath," said Lofgren, a member of the committee. "They have not come in, and they recently retained private counsel, which is unusual but they have a right to do that."

    Rep. Adam Kinzinger, R-Ill., one of the two Republicans on the panel, told ABC News on Sunday that "it is not our decision that they have not [testified] so far."

    Asked if the Secret Service is refusing to cooperate, Kinzinger replied, "that's a question you have to ask the Secret Service, you have to ask those particular people."

    Rep. Liz Cheney, R-Wyo., the committee's vice-chair, told Fox News Sunday that "we have not had the kind of cooperation that we really need to have" from the Secret Service.

    Questions have swirled about Ornato and Engel's credibility since Hutchinson's testimony. Washington Post reporter Carol Leonnig, who wrote the book "Zero Fail: The Rise and Fall of the Secret Service" during the Trump administration, told MSNBC that both men were "very, very close to President Trump."

    "Some people accused them of at times being enablers and 'yes men' of the president—particularly Tony Ornato—and very much people who wanted to do what he wanted and see him pleased," she said, adding that "both of these individuals lose a little credibility because of how closely they have been seen as aligned to Donald Trump."

    Ornato made an unusual transition from working for the Secret Service to working directly for Trump at the White House, serving as deputy chief of staff for operations.
    Former White House spokeswoman Alyssa Farah accused Ornato, who helped coordinate Trump's infamous clearing of protesters at Lafayette Square for a photo-op at a nearby church, of lying about the incident. "There seems to be a major thread here… Tony Ornato likes to lie," Kinzinger tweeted last month.
    msn.com


  20. by oldedude on July 25, 2022 10:14 pm
    Well you know, that's because they're George Soros Marxists, follow Bill Ayers, are satanic, and drink the blood of aborted fetuses.
    Of all the "things" you have said throughout the years, I still find it interesting you are soooo wound up about these two words (Marx and Soros). Shakespeare was right, "The lady doth protest too much, methinks". You keep bringing it up, and yet it wasn't a dig at YOU. If you could buy a clue, you would have seen that. And yet you don't. Do I think you're a Marxist? No. I think you're a useful idiot for the Marists. Do I want to kill Marxists? absolutely not. Here, we're entitled to differences of opinion. I honestly don't think you understand your political views enough to understand where they come from.
    Also, Soros isn't a Marxist. He's a full fledged opportunist that was kicked out of Romania (of all the places of the world) and is due to make trillions of dollars and own much of the earth's economic systems and global currency if he destroys most of the global economic systems. He is the ONE person on the globe you should hate.
    Again, if you actually understood the constitution you live under (and don't give me the bullsht about you 'reading' it and 'familiar' with it, because your statements don't hold a candle to an 8 year old about it. If you're also talking sht, you need a primer class in economics and political theory.


  21. by oldedude on July 25, 2022 10:21 pm
    The officer with the Metropolitan Police Department was in the motorcade with the Secret Service for Trump on January 6 and recounted what was seen to committee investigators, according to the source.
    So why isn't this person already done sworn testimony? Oh. yeah. Kavanaugh raped 20 women at that party when he was in college. Why don't I believe either?
    And you wonder why I think this "investigation" is being put on by PT Barnum, HS Tammen, and Soapy Smith.


  22. by Curt_Anderson on July 25, 2022 11:01 pm
    PT Barnum I know of (he was also popular elected official in Connecticut who did a lot of good, btw) Soapy Smith, I also know about from my reading of Colorado history of conmen. Who is HS Tammen?


  23. by oldedude on July 25, 2022 11:29 pm
    Harry Tammen, owner of the Denver Post (with Fred Bonfils) in the early days. He actually bought the "PT Barnum Dog and Pony Show" in the early days. He also knew Soapy and many other scoundrels of the time. Which may say a lot for his "morals."


  24. by Donna on July 26, 2022 8:55 am
    "I honestly don't think you understand your political views enough to understand where they come from." - olde dude

    My political views come from compassion and my desire for everyone to have a chance for a happy life.


  25. by Curt_Anderson on July 26, 2022 10:12 am
    OD,
    Speaking of Colorado conmen, hucksters and humbugs have you ever heard of Wilbur Foshay? He is connected to my mother's hometown of Salida.


  26. by oldedude on July 26, 2022 6:19 pm
    "My political views come from compassion and my desire for everyone to have a chance for a happy life."
    You mean, "everyone I agree with."... So you have no background on this except for your "feelings." Which would be fine, except everything has a cause, action, and reaction. And that continually cycles and changes.

    I guess that is kind of a conundrum for me. If that's your view on life, why do you violently react to words?


  27. by Donna on July 26, 2022 8:46 pm
    I don't understand what you mean by violently reacting to words. I'm not a violent person.


  28. by oldedude on July 26, 2022 10:56 pm
    Your reaction to a post where I really wasn't even talking about you (well, I didn't think so, but I guess I hit a lot closer than what I thought) regarding using Marxist methods to make change. I still stand by that and if your offended, you might want to actually check out how you align with social change groups. (they range from soft revolution "Saul Alenski" types, to the burniebros that were talking about putting conservatives in "re-education camps.") That's why I suggested that you actually read the books of these folks. I have. I've also read several of the major religions books of their faith.

    "Well you know, that's because they're George Soros Marxists, follow Bill Ayers, are satanic, and drink the blood of aborted fetuses." is an extremely shallow, vile, and angry wording when you obviously are not really aware of what it means.


  29. by Donna on July 27, 2022 4:05 am
    Actually that was satire. I was laughing when I posted it. I was in an opposite state of mind from anger.

    And "violent"? LOL! You're a weird guy.

    And I'm not at all interested in political science. My political ideas cone entirely from who I am and my life experiences.


  30. by oldedude on July 27, 2022 6:08 am
    Whatever. It's like you "saying" you read the Constitution, but you know less about it than my 7 year old granddaughters. That statement is based in fact. So before you take offence to what I say, my point is that you should learn something about political science before you post on a political web site. It would also be nice if you watched more than the cartoon channel for information about daily goings on you are remarking on.


  31. by Donna on July 27, 2022 10:46 am
    I don't remember saying that I've read the entire Constitution. I'm certainly not a Constitutional scholar and neither is anyone here.

    Btw, this isn't only a political website. It's just y'all's favorite subject.

    It'd be nice if you'd stopped being an asshole.


  32. by oldedude on July 27, 2022 2:19 pm
    Ditto


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