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Are you on Team Crazy or Team Normal?

By Curt_Anderson
July 13, 2022 11:58 am
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(New York Times)A majority of American voters across nearly all demographics and ideologies believe their system of government does not work, with 58 percent of those interviewed for a New York Times/Siena College poll saying that the world’s oldest independent constitutional democracy needs major reforms or a complete overhaul.

The discontent among Republicans is driven by their widespread, unfounded doubts about the legitimacy of the nation’s elections. For Democrats, it is the realization that even though they control the White House and Congress, it is Republicans, joined with their allies in gerrymandered state legislatures and the Supreme Court, who are achieving long-sought political goals.


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  1. by HatetheSwamp on July 13, 2022 12:09 pm

    "unfounded."

    Bahahahahahahahahahaha.


  2. by Curt_Anderson on July 13, 2022 12:22 pm
    So you are on Team Crazy, HtS. We all knew that.



  3. by HatetheSwamp on July 13, 2022 12:29 pm

    No, Curt, but I am on Team Impartial. Words means things, as Rush used to say.

    Go back and read the sentence without the offensive word which editorializes.

    The meaning is exactly the same without the judgment.


  4. by Curt_Anderson on July 13, 2022 12:44 pm
    So you disagree with and are offended by the Time's use of the word "unfounded". What evidence have you found that challenges the legitimacy of the Biden's election?

    Team Crazy lost 60 court cases, and numerous state election recounts and forensic audits. Trump's cultists and deadenders' claims have been debunked. Sidney Powell's own legal defense team said that "reasonable people' wouldn't believe her election fraud claims".

    What is keeping you from reaching acceptance of the election results?
    nbcnews.com


  5. by HatetheSwamp on July 13, 2022 1:00 pm

    Curt,

    You know d@mn well that I do. We've exchanged posts over the criminal convictions of Dems for felonious acts of vote fraud in Texas and Arizona. Since then, the Wisconsin Supreme Court has ruled drop boxes unconstitutional. There's now abundant evidence that the 020 election was ripe with fraud.

    And, for the gazillion time. I accept the election results. "That feckless dementia-ridden piece of crap" is my President.

    But, I'm open minded enough to know that quite a bit of what Trump claimed is now proved to be true.

    He's a sort of prophet.

    But, my point in isolating the word is to prove the media's lack of integrity. And, I nailed it.


  6. by Donna on July 13, 2022 1:10 pm
    LOL!

    Curt, that's ^^^^^^^^ why I'm no longer getting into political debates with him or his cohort here who inexplicably erupts into unhinged diatribes about George Soros and Marxists now and then. I don't see the point. And I don't care what wacky conclusions they make.


  7. by HatetheSwamp on July 13, 2022 1:26 pm

    unhinged diatribes about George Soros and Marxists

    Show me even one time I've mentioned either Soros or Marxists in a single post.

    You must be thinking about another crackpot on another board...

    ...or you're following my parents into dementia.


  8. by Ponderer on July 13, 2022 1:42 pm
    I wasn't talking about you, you knucklehead. You don't read carefully. Yet another reason I don't waste time debating you anymore.


  9. by Donna on July 13, 2022 1:43 pm
    That ^^^ was mine.


  10. by Curt_Anderson on July 13, 2022 1:49 pm
    HtS, you have two non sequiturs in this thread.

    "You know d@mn well that I do". I didn't ask anything in which that is a logical response.

    Your touchiness that you didn't mention Soros or Marxists also doesn't follow. Donna said your cohorts are the types who would mention Soros and Marxists, not you.

    But I understand why you resort to the illogical. Your defense of the Big Lie and Trump doesn't allow for facts or logic.


  11. by HatetheSwamp on July 13, 2022 3:09 pm

    She was referring to me as "him." Nothing that followed applied to "him."

    What I think is that I pointed out that Trump is a sort of prophet. With that state Supreme Court decision the convictions of Biden supporters for vote fraud felonies, she knows that pb is right, and she's filled with shame.


  12. by oldedude on July 13, 2022 5:14 pm
    Donna
    I think it's really interesting when you didn't even read the posts you referenced. I think it shows your true colours of being a minion of your liberal religion. Then you just "quit." You took your ball and went home. Little did you know we had a whole case of balls, so you weren't noticed being gone.


  13. by oldedude on July 13, 2022 5:25 pm
    Lead,
    Actually, she's still pissed at me. Which is interesting, because I didn't know I could actually own her that easy. "The lady doth protest too much, methinks"


  14. by Donna on July 14, 2022 12:38 am
    I like to debate people who know how to read. I consider it a prerequisite before entering a debate.

    I said, referring to Hts and his previous post,

    "Curt, that's ^^^^^^^^ why I'm no longer getting into political debates with him or his cohort here who inexplicably erupts into unhinged diatribes about George Soros and Marxists now and then.

    Couldn't be clearer that I was referring to his cohort as the one who inexplicably erupts into unhinged diatribes about George Soros and Marxist.

    Sheesh.

    My other prerequisite is that the person I'm considering debating isn't certifiable.

    So that eliminates Hts's cohort.


  15. by HatetheSwamp on July 14, 2022 3:48 am

    No, Donna. Don't fly.

    Your post was primarily about pb. Then you splained pb (and his effin cohort) by examples that do not apply to pb!

    It seems to me that you're avoiding pb because he regularly OWNS you when you square off.


  16. by Donna on July 14, 2022 8:16 am
    No, actually the problem is that you aren't a careful reader.

    The key word is "erupts".

    "Curt, that's ^^^^^^^^ why I'm no longer getting into political debates with him or his cohort here who inexplicably erupts into unhinged diatribes about George Soros and Marxists now and then.

    The word "erupts" indicates that it was in reference to the singular, i.e. "his cohort".

    If I had meant for it to apply also to you, I would have used the word "erupt", i.e. "... with him or his cohort here who inexplicably erupt into unhinged diatribes ..."

    I can't tell whether you really didn't catch that or you're just being argumentative, but regardless, everyone knows that the only one on this forum who occasionally launches into unprovoked rants about George Soros and Marxists is the olde guy from Florida.







  17. by oldedude on July 14, 2022 11:25 am
    And then I explained myself. TWICE. Trying to smooth this over somehow. But you, as usual, saw ONE WORD and defined me by that. I wasn't calling you a Marxist. For the second time, it's the METHODOLOGY or PROCESS, NOT the GOAL. In addition, it was a comment in general. Like your wife, there's some illusion of grandeur. I was speaking about a movement.

    Revolutionary methodology is quite different than constitutional, or soft revolution. If anything, you need to read up on your own belief system and see where it comes from and what you're associating yourself with. Maybe read some Saul Alinsky and pick the pieces you like and/or don't. That goes with several others.

    I think it's funny though that you take such an extreme view of that word. You might want to read him with an open mind. The Liberal New World Order in to a religion, then he started the revolution that is still going on today. It was Che and Mao that initiated change with violent revolution.

    So here's where I'm at. If you keep refusing to actually read the posts and react to what you think I said, good riddance. After all the things your wife and you have called us, and keep repeating, I would think you would have a thicker skin. Especially since I didn't call you a Marxist. I guess not. I have done my turn and am not responsible for you.


  18. by Donna on July 14, 2022 12:37 pm
    Nice tap dance. You're still trying to tie Sheri and me in with Marxists with your comment, "If anything, you need to read up on your own belief system and see where it comes from and what you're associating yourself with. Maybe read some Saul Alinsky and pick the pieces you like and/or don't."

    I particularly enjoyed this gem: "The Liberal New World Order in to a religion, then he started the revolution that is still going on today. It was Che and Mao that initiated change with violent revolution."

    My oh my, isn't that rich?

    To quote Hts: BWHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!


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