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How nervous should Trump and his allies be over Patrick Cipollone's testimony?

By Curt_Anderson
July 8, 2022 3:06 pm
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I suspect there is a good deal of anxiety in Trumpworld right now. Some of them are probably wondering if remaining loyal to Trump takes priority over saving their own skin. Trump is probably wondering who will remain loyal.

Ex-Trump White House counsel Cipollone 'cooperative' with Jan. 6 committee during lengthy interview
The panel has called Pat Cipollone a critical witness who repeatedly raised legal concerns about Trump’s activities on Jan. 6 and in the days preceding it.

Former Trump White House counsel Pat Cipollone appeared before the House Jan. 6 committee for a marathon interview Friday and has been willing to answer the panel's questions, a source familiar with the first part of his testimony said.

“He’s been a cooperative witness within the parameters of his desire to protect executive privilege for the office of general counsel,” the source said.


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  1. by HatetheSwamp on July 8, 2022 3:18 pm

    Unless it turns out that he was giving orders to the Proud Boys and the Oath Keepers, a former President isn't going to be charged with a crime.

    If he's implicated in something that would cause SwampGOPs like Bill Barr not to vote for him in November 024, it might damage him enough politically.

    Otherwise, just enjoy your TDS dream.


  2. by Curt_Anderson on July 8, 2022 3:58 pm
    "Unless it turns out that he was giving orders to the Proud Boys and the Oath Keepers, a former President isn't going to be charged with a crime." --HtS

    What kind of talk is that? I thought you were on Trump's side!



  3. by HatetheSwamp on July 8, 2022 4:10 pm

    What?

    I'm supporting Ron DeSantis for President.

    I think Trump's despicable but I think the Committee a farce


  4. by Curt_Anderson on July 8, 2022 6:22 pm
    This isn't a good day for Donald Trump.



  5. by oldedude on July 9, 2022 3:51 am
    After all that "whahoo" Cipollone didn't get asked about the testimony in question. Which would support that she lied.


  6. by HatetheSwamp on July 9, 2022 4:26 am

    OD,

    Really? Do you have a link?


  7. by HatetheSwamp on July 9, 2022 4:56 am

    Ahhhhhhhhhhh.

    CNN:

    "Two people familiar with former Trump White House counsel Pat Cipollone's testimony Friday told CNN that the House select committee investigating January 6, 2021, did not ask him if he told then-White House aide Cassidy Hutchinson the day of the attack that they would "get charged with every crime imaginable" if they went to the US Capitol.

    If asked, he would not have confirmed that particular statement, the sources said."


    cnn.com


  8. by Curt_Anderson on July 10, 2022 8:59 am
    According to those anonymous sources Patrick Cipolloni would not confirm those PARTICULAR statements. That's rather lawyerly language.

    In an ABC interview with George Stephanopoulos Congressman Adam Kinzinger said that Cipollone did not contradict statements by previous witnesses.
    abcnews.go.com


  9. by HatetheSwamp on July 10, 2022 9:20 am

    "...did not contradict statements..."

    Wow, now that's specific.


  10. by Curt_Anderson on July 10, 2022 10:10 am
    Presumably on Tuesday we will have a chance to hear how Mr Cipolloni's testimony contradicts or confirms the testimony of Cassidy Hutchinson.

    If I were on the committee I would not ask Mr Cipolani whether or not he could confirm verbatim or refute Hutchinson's "every crime imaginable" testimony. Instead I would ask Cipollone if he was concerned that Mr Trump would be committing multiple crimes if he were to enter the Capitol with the rioters and did he express his concerns to others.


  11. by HatetheSwamp on July 10, 2022 10:24 am

    Presumably on Tuesday we will have a chance to hear how Mr Cipolloni's testimony contradicts or confirms the testimony of Cassidy Hutchinson.

    Well, as it is spliced and diced by the Committee, anyway.

    Did you read pb's summary of Trump's Alaska speech, and of the ardor of the MAGAs and Ultra-MAGAs?

    By now, you should be beginning to suspect that many people...

    ...even GOPs like OD and pb, who support people other than Trump, don't believe anything that comes out of the Committee.


  12. by Curt_Anderson on July 10, 2022 11:33 am
    HtS,
    Yes, I did read your summary of the Alaska rally. Interesting. It may have been telling that Trump was mute on the subject of 1/6. It would seem a truly innocent victim of perjured testimony would be vociferously disputing it.

    The committee won't be "slicing and dicing" the testimony into small incoherent pieces. The segments they air will credibly stand on their own as has previous recorded testimony. You can bet on it.

    78% of your fellow Pennsylvanians have been following the hearings. Slightly more than half, 52%, support them. "44% of Republicans said they were "seriously" or "somewhat seriously" concerned with the revelation that Trump had demanded then-Vice President Mike Pence overturn the election, and pressured Pence when he refused to cooperate."

    I believe that the most significant impact that the hearings will have (other than legal ramifications) is that it will undercut pro-insurrectionist candidates running on The Big Lie platform. That of course includes Trump.
    americanindependent.com


  13. by HatetheSwamp on July 10, 2022 11:47 am

    The committee won't be "slicing and dicing" the testimony into small incoherent pieces. The segments they air will credibly stand on their own as has previous recorded testimony. You can bet on it.

    Incoherent?, no. Accurate? Many, many of us doubt that.

    78% of your fellow Pennsylvanians have been following the hearings. Slightly more than half, 52%, support them. "44% of Republicans said they were "seriously" or "somewhat seriously" concerned with the revelation that Trump had demanded then-Vice President Mike Pence overturn the election, and pressured Pence when he refused to cooperate."


    Heck, Curt. pb's following the hearings and, pb is concerned about the Trump/Pence stuff.

    None of that makes me sanguine about the hearings themselves.

    As far as Trump barely mentioning the hearings: It may have been telling that Trump was mute on the subject of 1/6. It would seem a truly innocent victim of perjured testimony would be vociferously disputing it.

    My guess is that MAGAs and Ultra-MAGAs simply see the hearings as a silly Swamp game. Nuthin new. Nuthin to see.


  14. by Curt_Anderson on July 10, 2022 12:16 pm
    HtS,
    We appear to agree in essence. You say the MAGAts will be unmoved by the committee's findings. I agree. But they are a subset of the Republicans. There are plenty of normal "classic" Republicans who reject the Big Lie and won't support candidates who seem to offer nothing besides fealty to Trump.

    The committee's work is important to our election system and the peaceful transfer of power. Those who attempt to discredit the outcomes of elections are the unwitting dupes of Russian propagandists and others who want to denigrate democracy. History will harshly judge not only those who were actively involved but those who didn't actively oppose the attempted coup.


  15. by HatetheSwamp on July 10, 2022 1:00 pm

    There are plenty of normal "classic" Republicans who reject the Big Lie and won't support candidates who seem to offer nothing besides fealty to Trump.

    Following right wing media as closely as I do, those "normal, classic, GOPs" won't vote for Trump...

    ...UNTIL November 024. Then, against a Dem, they will. Without a doubt. In huuuuuuuuuge numbers.

    Just like Bill Barr. Just like pb.

    The committee's work is important to our election system and the peaceful transfer of power.


    What the Committee purports to be about is very important.

    What happened on January 6 is horrible. Nothing close to it should be permitted to happen again.

    From where I sit, the Committee has degenerated into a frantic, Swamp-driven inquision intent on proving that Donald Trump is an SOB.

    He is, indeed, all of that.


  16. by Curt_Anderson on July 10, 2022 1:18 pm
    I predict that Trump will NOT be on the ballot in 2024. I don't think Biden will be either, btw.


  17. by HatetheSwamp on July 10, 2022 1:29 pm

    Obviously, I hope you're right about Trump. I agree with you about Biden.


  18. by oldedude on July 10, 2022 9:04 pm
    "The committee won't be "slicing and dicing" the testimony into small incoherent pieces. The segments they air will credibly stand on their own as has previous recorded testimony. You can bet on it."

    That's exactly what they're doing because all the sheep will believe all of it.

    "Look inward young Luke. In this you will find the truth."

    You've fallen for it. You defend pedojoe at every turn. His daughter is fukked up because he's a pedo. and you still defend him. He can't put out two sentences coherently. And you defend him. You devout cling to Beelzebub is embarrassing.


  19. by Curt_Anderson on July 10, 2022 9:50 pm
    OD,
    Who are we talking about?



  20. by oldedude on July 11, 2022 12:51 pm
    Of course not. In your complete blindness (blandness), Joe's daughter's diary accounts that he was extremely "inappropriate" in a shower when she was growing up. This, along with sniffing children's hair, and feeling up a girl is why I gave him the name of "pedojoe." All of these have been on the site. So what you are supporting is a pedophile. I know you don't care, but just for that, he should go to prison. Get be some dude's girlfriend, get passed around, shanked, brought back to life, repeat for 5-10.


  21. by Curt_Anderson on July 11, 2022 7:51 pm
    OD,
    How true! The only worse than a father having inappropriate sexual behavior with his daughter, is a father having inappropriate sexual behavior with his son.



  22. by oldedude on July 11, 2022 7:59 pm
    So if it's sooo fukking bad, why isn't it for pedojoe? or is that one of the things your lead sheep told you not to worry about? Interesting thing though. pedojoe doesn't take pictures of them. He does it like a true pedophile. Behind the scenes. And since you're "protecting" him, my guess is that you're also a member of NAMBLA. So you get some of your NR pictures of Trump, and hold the rest of your per-adolescent pictures you have for yourself inside your computer. I guess that is one of the reasons you live in "oragone" where they don't think having sexual pictures of 8 year olds is okay.

    Interesting that you would keep going on this. I was going to move back to the subject at hand. If you want to keep going, please do.


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