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Arming teachers is a stupid idea that won't reduce the rate of kids killed by guns.
By Curt_Anderson
May 27, 2022 11:15 am
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We already ask too much of our teachers; we expect them to be counselors, special needs identifiers, school supplies providers, college advisor, nurses, computer instructors, remote learning specialists, etc.

The idea of telling them to teach students while gun toting is just nuts. First off, teachers didn't sign up to be armed guards. Teacher groups and teachers individually have publicly stated their opposition to arming teachers.

Teachers would or should be expected to take firearm training. That's more time away from their core responsibility: teaching.

Would teachers then be expected to holster a sidearm at all times? That puts the damper on an open and free classroom discussion. If the teacher were keep his/her gun in their desk what is the assurance a kid doesn't get hold of it? Many teachers are smaller than their students, and if a student had bad intentions they could easily ambush and overpower a teacher and take their gun.

Would the guns be kept in a safe or would they be readily available for quick emergency access? Either option is bad.

Mass murderers' seem to have a death wish and/or no regard for the potential consequences to their actions. Ulvade, Marjory Stoneman Douglas, Tot's grocery in Buffalo, church killings and many other kill sites had armed guards and/or citizens with guns. To expect that a school murderer would think rationally and be dissuaded by the thought of teacher with a gun is preposterous.

Besides all the impracticality of arming of teachers, it wouldn't make a dent in the number of children killed by guns in America.

That 19 kids were killed in Ulvade was tragic. Also tragic is that an average of 54 children are victims of gun homicide every week in America. Another 29 children die by gun suicide and accidental shooting every week. Flooding the country with more guns as result of teachers carrying guns would only add to the problem.

Guns have become the leading cause of death for American kids
(Axios)Nearly two-thirds of the 4,368 U.S. children up to age 19 who were killed by guns in 2020 were homicide victims, per the CDC. Motor vehicle crashes, formerly the leading cause of death for kids one and older, killed nearly 4,000 children.

Another 30% of firearm-related child fatalities were suicides, 3% were accidental and 2% were of undetermined intent.

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  1. by HatetheSwamp on May 27, 2022 11:31 am

    Do you think teachers licensed to own firearms should be prohibited from carrying them at work?

  2. by Curt_Anderson on May 27, 2022 11:51 am
    It's not a good idea for teachers to bring their guns to school. The risks outweigh the benefits.

    As it is now, federal law prohibits guns on K–12 campuses generally but exempts people with concealed carry permits from the prohibition. Nearly all states prohibit concealed carry permit holders from carrying firearms in K–12 schools, however. Notwithstanding these prohibitions, even in states where carry by permittees is prohibited, many states allow schools to grant individualized permission to permit holders to carry. A little over a quarter of states allow individuals with concealed carry permits to carry loaded firearms in their vehicles despite the prohibition on guns on campus.

  3. by HatetheSwamp on May 27, 2022 12:38 pm

    There are schools that all teachers to be armed. (See link)

    Here's the question: Have there been mass murders in schools that permit personnel to be armed?

    My sense is that the answer is, no.

    Please understand. I've never owned a gun of any type and I never will.

    However, I suspect that students are safer in school that allow staff, licensed and trained, to be armed.

  4. by Curt_Anderson on May 27, 2022 2:51 pm
    These 8 states have policies that specifically allow school employees — other than security personnel, which are allowed to carry guns in 28 states — to carry guns on school property, though they may need the district’s permission:
    South Dakota

    Obviously population has an impact on school shootings. The possibility that teachers might be packing hasn't been a deterrent in Texas or anywhere else.

    School shootings since 2012
    Incidents Incident Rank Pop. Rank
    California 157 1 1
    Texas 126 2 2
    Illinois 84 3 6
    Florida 74 4 3
    Michigan 66 5 10
    Ohio 57 6 7
    Pennsylvania 56 7 5
    New York 53 8 4
    Maryland 49 9 19
    Tennessee 45 10 16
    Louisiana 39 11 25
    Alabama 39 11 24
    Georgia 39 11 8
    North Carolina 36 14 9
    Missouri 35 15 18

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