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Here is a cause that the Right to Life and Pro-choice crowds should agree on

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May 26, 2022 9:38 am
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Supreme Court Louis Brandeis said that states "are the laboratories of democracy." The idea being that we should be able to learn which laws (or lack of laws) have a positive or negative impact on society There does seem to be a correlation between states with loose gun laws and higher gun death rates.

(Deseret News)Here are the states with the weakest gun control laws, according to a 2022 report by Everytown for Gun Safety:

Mississippi, 28.6 gun deaths per 100,000 residents. According to Everytown, Mississippi lacks all five foundational policies, having recently repealed a permit requirement for carrying a concealed weapon in public. The state also leads the nation in gun deaths, with more than double the national average, per the Giffords Law Center. Mississippi does indefinitely bar people with felony convictions from owning guns. (#2 in firearm deaths; 2019 statistics)

Idaho, 17.6 gun deaths per 100,000 residents. Idaho has the fourth-highest rate of gun suicides of any state, according to Everytown. The state has weakened gun laws recently, repealing a concealed carry permit requirement, minimum age protections and a ban on public carry after a violent offense. Idaho does not allow guns in K-12 schools and prevents those convicted of a hate crime from having firearms. (#19 in firearm deaths; 2019 statistics)

Montana, 20.9 gun deaths per 100,000 residents. Montana is tied with Idaho when it comes to gun law strength, according to Everytown, with only four policies in place — none of them foundational. The state doesn’t permit guns in K-12 schools, has a hate crime prohibitor and funds community violence intervention programming in the state budget. (#10 in firearm deaths; 2019 statistics)

Arkansas, 22.6 gun deaths per 100,000 residents. Gun deaths increased twice as much in Arkansas (34%) than they did nationwide (17%) in the last decade, according to Everytown. Lawmakers repealed the state’s concealed carry permitting requirement in 2021. Arkansas prohibits public carry at the state capitol or at political protests, in K-12 schools, and bans possession for those with a felony conviction or found to be a danger to self or others. (#9 in firearm deaths; 2019 statistics)

South Dakota, 13.6 gun deaths per 100,000 residents. Of all gun deaths in the state, 80% are the result of suicide. South Dakota doesn’t force colleges and universities to allow concealed carry and prohibits domestic abusers from having guns after a misdemeanor conviction. The state also has a hate crime prohibitor and requires mental health record reporting. (#24 in firearm deaths; 2019 statistics)

Wyoming, 25.9 gun deaths per 100,000 residents. Between 2010 and 2019, gun deaths in Wyoming increased more than two-and-a-half times the national average and gun suicide increased nearly three times the national average, per Everytown. Wyoming allows school personnel to carry firearms in K-12 schools but does not mandate colleges allow concealed carry. (#4 in firearm deaths; 2019 statistics)

Oklahoma, 20.7 gun deaths per 100,000 residents. Oklahoma outlawed concealed carry in bars and for those convicted of assault or other misdemeanor convictions. According to Everytown, the state also prevents public carry at the capitol and political protests. (#11 in firearm deaths; 2019 statistics)

Arizona, 16.7 gun deaths per 100,000 residents. According to Everytown, Arizona has the lowest household firearm ownership rate of the 13 states with the weakest gun control laws, which could help explain its relatively low gun violence rate. Arizona’s gun deaths rate is still 22% higher than the national average, according to Giffords. Arizona bans gun possession for those with felony convictions, stalker convictions and those found to be a danger to themselves or others. (#16 in firearm deaths; 2019 statistics)

New Hampshire, 8.9 gun deaths per 100,000 residents. Nearly 90% of all gun deaths in New Hampshire are the result of suicides, according to Everytown, and the state’s lower-than-average death rate could come from being surrounded by states with tougher control laws. New Hampshire has one foundational policy: It requires that guns be locked, unloaded and separate from ammunition to prevent access to children under the age of 16. (#36 in firearm deaths; 2019 statistics)

Missouri, 23.9 gun deaths per 100,000 residents. According to Everytown, St. Louis, Missouri has one of the highest rates of gun murders among all cities in the country. Missouri bans possession by fugitives, and those with a felony or hate crime conviction. State law also requires that law enforcement agencies collect and report data on use of force incidents. (#7 in firearm deaths; 2019 statistics)



Texas — where Tuesday’s elementary school shooting occurred — has the 17th-weakest gun laws in the country, according to Everytown. The same report ranks New York as the state with the third-strongest gun control laws. (#27 in firearm deaths; 2019 statistics)

New York has 5.3 gun deaths per 100,000 residents, while Texas has 14.2 per 100,000 residents. (#33 in firearm deaths; 2019 statistics)

Cited and related links:

  1. deseret.com
  2. en.wikipedia.org

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  1. by islander on May 27, 2022 5:04 am

    Most so called pro life politicians in Washington are also the most vehemently opposed to gun laws.

    All the mass shooting of children are waved away with, "What about the millions of children murdered by abortion"...



  2. by HatetheSwamp on May 27, 2022 5:16 am

    If every adult in that school had been wearing a pistol that shooter would not have entered the building.

    There's no question about it.


  3. by islander on May 27, 2022 6:29 am

    If no one at the school had a gun there would not have been the mass shooting.

    No question about it.


  4. by Donna on May 27, 2022 7:10 am
    "If every adult in that school had been wearing a pistol that shooter would not have entered the building." - Hts

    Your solution is arming teachers? OMG. I think you've finally lost your mind. Your solution doesn't address the root cause of the problem.

    NO OTHER COUNTRY ON THE PLANET HAS THE PROBLEM WITH GUN VIOLENCE LIKE WE DO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! NOT EVEN CLOSE!!!! THEY HAVE CRAZY PEOPLE TOO, BUT THEY'RE REEEEEEEEEEAL STRICT ABOUT WHO CAN BUY A GUN. THIS PIECE OF SHIT WHO KILLED 19 CHILDREN AND 2 TEACHERS BOUGHT 2 ASSAULT RIFLES THE DAY HE TURNED 18. HE HAD SHOWN SIGNS ON SOCIAL MEDIA THAT HE WAS UNSTABLE. THIS COULD HAVE BEEN PREVENTED. 90% OF AMERICANS SUPPORT A UNIVERSAL BACKGROUND CHECK SYSTEM, BUT THE CORRUPT ASSHOLE POLITICIANS IN YOUR FUCKING PARTY ALWAYS BLOCK EFFORTS TO PASS IT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    Why doesn't someone ever open fire on right-wing freaks like Greg Abbott, Ted Cruz, and every fucking politician who prevents sensible gun laws from being passed?


  5. by HatetheSwamp on May 27, 2022 9:47 am

    Donna,

    As Rush used to say, "I live in 'Realville.'"

    I'm not suggesting that arming teachers as a solution. But, come up with something more practical. Reports were, at least, that the murderer began firing before he entered the building.

    If that's true and teachers were armed?, how might the story have been different!!!!!?

    Michael Moore's asking why we can't repeal the Second Amendment! Well, we can't.

    People have guns and, short of repealing the Second Amendment and confiscating private citizens' guns what do real people do? Real people, not sneering, sanctimonious Blue MAGA Swampcultists!

    I think everyone hates what life has become. The compelling reality of life in America is that these things happen.

    Guffaw. Laugh. Sneer...to your heart's content. Go for it! I think it's time, though, that you joined me here in the real world.


  6. by islander on May 27, 2022 4:01 pm

    "Guffaw. Laugh. Sneer...to your heart's content. Go for it! I think it's time, though, that you joined me here in the real world."

    Your "real world" is a subjective place in your own own head that has no connection to objective reality---So thanks for the offer, but "No Thanks" !! LoL !!


  7. by Ponderer on May 27, 2022 11:03 pm
    It's astounding to me that so many Americans, overwhelmingly Republicans, believe that Americans -- who want to mitigate the carnage committed by psychopaths through proposals like outlawing assault weapons like the AK-47, (the only function of which is to kill large numbers of human beings quickly,) and implementing a Universal Background Check system so that psychopaths can't buy guns, which is supported by 90% of Americans -- are trying to get rid of the 2nd Amendment.

    What an incredibly stupid analysis. GUNS ARE ALREADY REGULATED. That's why no one is legally permitted to fire a grenade launcher. In fact, most of our Constitutional rights are regulated. How did these people get to the point that they believe that sensible life-saving regulations are the same thing as abolishing the 2nd Amendment?

    The NRA isn't protecting the 2nd Amendment. The NRA is the lobbying arm of the American gun industry and its entire purpose is to maximize profits for that industry. That's why it's opposed to any new gun regulations that will lead to reducing the sale of guns.

    Sociopaths who block sane gun control legislation are literally putting profits over the lives of Americans, including children, and the people who believe their ridiculous arguments and vote for them have to be among the stupidest people on the planet.

    It's all driven by hatred of liberals and Democrats. It's hard for the rest of us to watch our country be destroyed by hatred and stupidity.


  8. by Donna on May 27, 2022 11:05 pm
    Of course I wrote that. My wife gets her points across much better than me.


  9. by Donna on May 27, 2022 11:27 pm
    How The NRA Profits Off Gun Violence & Fear

    Gun companies have given at least $20 million to the NRA.

    "Our goal is to try to raise at least $100,000 every year, every year, for the NRA, 'cause they're looking out for us in Congress" - Michael Fifer, CEO of Sturm, Ruger, & Co.

    "I think it's important for everybody to step up and support the NRA. They are our voice." - P. James Debney, CEO and President of Smith & Wesson Holding Corp.
    facebook.com


  10. by HatetheSwamp on May 28, 2022 5:13 am

    po,

    I agree with you to a small degree.

    pb is not pro gun, only pro Bill of Rights and individual liberty.

    I think that the NRA is to the right what the abortion industry is to the left. Heck, only one Dem House member and one Dem Senator voted against that Bill that would legalize abortion without restriction up to the moment of birth. Crazy. Murderous.

    I was listening to the Guy Benson Show the other day. You know Guy, the gay guy Curt's never heard of, the star of Fox News Radio. He was interviewing Andrew McCarthy who's a former federal prosecutor and a go to guy on the Constitution and legal issues.

    They're both like pb. Both believe in freedom. Neither are big into Trump. And, both notice every time your side over reaches to use big government to squish the individual. They think what pb thinks...almost identically...but are waaaaaaaaaay smarter.

    I was surprised, as they discussed common sense gun regulation, a robust fear of what happens when we give the government the slightest inch in meddling with our right to own weapons.

    One thing your side has to accept is that we, people who think of the US as a nation "of the people, by the people and for the people," have you people pegged.

    You fear freedom. And, there's more than a little fear of how many miles your side will seize if freedom lovers give an inch.

    Your side proved that the fear is justified when your blue leaders smash to smithereens individual freedom during the pandemic...and, of course, as you everyday blues, thugged all of us who claimed that we area free people.

    Still, I'm hearing that people on the right are willing to think sense about guns, even if your side doesn't see sense on unborn life.


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