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By HatetheSwamp
February 7, 2022 10:54 am
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These videos indicate there were widespread violations of the election code in a large Pennsylvania county, followed by coverups.

According to a new whistleblower video obtained by The Federalist, 80 percent of Delaware County, Pennsylvania precincts lacked a valid chain of custody for the provisional ballots cast in the November 2020 election.

This video and two others just obtained by The Federalist provide further evidence that, while officials continue to deny that irregularities occurred during the last presidential election, there were widespread violations of the election code in the large Pennsylvania county, followed by efforts to cover up those problems.

No worries, Curt, and y'all. I know that you'll pretend this away.

I told you, from the beginning, that the smoke filled room handlers of "that feckless dementia-ridden piece of crap" stole Pennsylvania in 020.

Here's more strong evidence.


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Comments:

  1. by Curt_Anderson on February 7, 2022 12:15 pm
    I am not sure what determines a proper chain of custody of provisional ballots. Do we need someone staring at the bag 24/7? But I know that it's about 98% less of an issue than you think.

    In presidential cycles provisional ballots account for approximately 1.8 percent of all ballots cast, compared with about 1.1 percent of all ballots cast in midterm elections.


  2. by HatetheSwamp on February 7, 2022 12:41 pm

    Your stats do correspond with the experience in many states, Pennsylvania included, 020. Due to special measures undertaken in 020 to facilitate the vote in light of the pandemic, many people here voted without physically going to the polls. It's just true.

    That's the point.

    What's not surprising is that the counties in Pennsylvania where there is sloppiness in the accumulating and counting of ballots are heavily populated and predominantly Dem. Delaware County is fifth in population in Pennsylvania. Dems outnumber GOPs nearly 2-1.

    What the whistle-blower has recorded is what is widely known here. Now, there's more evidence to support it.

    I understand that you will tsk tsk this. That's fine. Go for it.

    However, when you wonder how it is that nearly half of likely voters continue tenaciously to be convinced that the smoke filled room handlers of "that feckless dementia-ridden piece of crap" swiped the election, be certain that it is with reason and that it will motivate us for many election cycles.


  3. by Curt_Anderson on February 7, 2022 1:16 pm
    "many people here voted without physically going to the polls."

    You're confusing absentee or mail-in ballots with provisional ballots. They're not the same.



  4. by HatetheSwamp on February 8, 2022 6:04 am

    Sorta, Curt. Technically.

    What happened here is that state government passed a law radically changing the way elections were conducted.

    On October 29, 2019, the Pennsylvania House of Representatives passed Act 77 by a vote of 138–61. Later that day, the Pennsylvania State Senate passed Act 77 by a vote of 35–14. Governor Tom Wolf signed Act 77 into law two days later. The law enacted numerous changes to Pennsylvania's election code. Voters were allowed to request a mail-in ballot without providing a reason. A person could register to vote up to 15 days before an election and vote in that election, instead of the previous 30-day period. It said that mail-in ballots and absentee ballots would be valid if received by 8 p.m. on election day.

    The implementation of the law took place in the 020 Primary where few voted. Both parties' nominations were long settled by the time we voted.

    What happened in November is that there was confusion and chaos. People were uncertain if they had cast their absentee ballot correctly and thousands of those people went to the polls and were given provisional ballots. How many showed up for Provisional Ballots as part of a plan organized by the Dem smoke filled room, we'll never know.

    How many? As the whistle-blower videos prove, we don't effin know!

    Clearly, there were shenanigans in Philadelphia and now there's proof some nasty things were done in Delaware County.

    My take on the election, based on my awareness of what took place in Dem areas of Pennsylvania, is that the smoke filled room handlers of "that feckless dementia-ridden piece of crap" did some serious cheating. Whether or not they swiped the election, we'll never know.

    If you don't know yet, most of the nearly half of likely voters who are POed, think that the smoke filled room handlers of "that feckless dementia-ridden piece of crap" actually really did swipe the election...

    ...and with evidence...

    ...whether you'll admit that or not...

    ...and, despite the reporting on MSNBC, CNN and GMA,...

    ...it ain't going away...

    ...and will manifest itself at the polls through at least 024.


  5. by Curt_Anderson on February 10, 2022 12:13 pm
    Comparing past election results in Delaware County Pennsylvania illustrates how ridiculous the lawsuit and allegations of a rigged election are.

    For the supposed conspiracy to elect Joe Biden to work, every country clerk (or similar title) in Pennsylvania and the other swing states would need to be involved. Plus if they were to shave Trump votes and add phony Biden votes, they'd need to know how many results would make a difference in their state's electoral count without raising suspicion.

    Delaware County, Pennsylvania
    2016 Trump 110,667 37.18%, Clinton 177,402 59.60%
    2020 Trump 118,532 36.15%, Biden 206,423 62.95%

    Trump actually gained votes in his re-election attempt but he lost one percent compared to four years earlier. That difference is well within the range of normal and expected variation and not at all suspicious.

    Here is the vote breakdown by municipality for both the 2020 and 2016 elections:
    * Indicates winner
    Aldan Borough
    2020
    TRUMP: 799
    *BIDEN: 1,599
    2016
    TRUMP: 806
    *CLINTON: 1,409
    Aston Township
    2020
    *TRUMP: 5,243
    BIDEN: 4,405
    2016
    *TRUMP: 5,004
    CLINTON: 3,731
    Bethel Township
    2020
    TRUMP: 3,073
    *BIDEN: 3,221
    2016
    *TRUMP: 2,818
    CLINTON: 2,527
    Chadds Ford Township
    2020
    TRUMP: 1,139
    *BIDEN: 1,414
    2016
    TRUMP: 1,064
    *CLINTON: 1,168
    Brookhaven Borough
    2020
    TRUMP: 2,530
    *BIDEN: 2,511
    2016
    *TRUMP: 2,304
    CLINTON: 2,083
    Chester Heights Borough
    2020
    TRUMP: 1,188
    *BIDEN: 1,622
    2016
    TRUMP: 736
    *CLINTON: 774
    Chester Township
    2020
    TRUMP: 190
    *BIDEN: 1,801
    2016
    TRUMP: 185
    *CLINTON: 1,775
    Lower Chichester Township
    2020
    *TRUMP: 686
    BIDEN: 684
    2016
    *TRUMP: 648
    CLINTON: 607
    Upper Chichester Township
    2020
    TRUMP: 4,132
    *BIDEN: 4,936
    2016
    *TRUMP: 4,227
    CLINTON: 4,093
    Clifton Heights Borough
    2020
    TRUMP: 1,360
    *BIDEN: 1,749
    2016
    TRUMP: 1,377
    *CLINTON: 1,513
    Collingdale Borough
    2020
    TRUMP: 1.015
    *BIDEN: 2,832
    2016
    *TRUMP: 1,069
    CLINTON: 2,479
    Colwyn Borough
    2020
    TRUMP: 115
    *BIDEN: 920
    2016
    TRUMP: 95
    *CLINTON: 908
    Concord Township
    2020
    TRUMP: 5,311
    *BIDEN: 5,712
    2016
    *TRUMP: 5,086
    CLINTON: 4,381
    Darby Borough
    2020
    TRUMP: 289
    *BIDEN: 3,520
    2016
    TRUMP: 289
    *CLINTON: 3,696
    Darby Township
    2020
    TRUMP: 1,537
    *BIDEN: 3,331
    2016
    TRUMP: 1,600
    *CLINTON: 2,999
    Upper Darby Township
    2020
    TRUMP: 11,590
    *BIDEN: 28,221
    2016
    TRUMP: 11,967
    *CLINTON: 25,475
    East Lansdowne Borough
    2020
    TRUMP: 202
    *BIDEN: 1,053
    2016
    TRUMP: 191
    *CLINTON: 1,029
    Eddystone Borough
    2020
    TRUMP: 523
    *BIDEN: 572
    2016
    TRUMP: 469
    *CLINTON: 494
    Edgemont Township
    2020
    TRUMP: 1,440
    *BIDEN: 1,542
    2016
    *TRUMP: 1,351
    CLINTON: 1,214
    Folcroft Borough
    2020
    TRUMP: 729
    *BIDEN: 1,702
    2016
    TRUMP: 979
    *CLINTON: 1,882
    Glenolden Borough
    2020
    TRUMP: 1,619
    *BIDEN: 1,991
    2016
    *TRUMP: 1,585
    CLINTON: 1,757
    Haverford Township
    2020
    TRUMP: 10,775
    *BIDEN: 22,076
    2016
    TRUMP: 10,359
    *CLINTON: 18,983
    Lansdowne Borough
    2020
    TRUMP: 920
    *BIDEN: 5,265
    2016
    TRUMP: 1,010
    *CLINTON: 4,904
    Marcus Hook Borough
    2020
    TRUMP: 428
    *BIDEN: 483
    2016
    TRUMP: 436
    *CLINTON: 473
    Marple Township
    2020
    *TRUMP: 8,014
    BIDEN: 7,480
    2016
    *TRUMP: 7,025
    CLINTON: 6,303
    Media Borough
    2020
    TRUMP: 955
    *BIDEN: 2,883
    2016
    TRUMP: 833
    *CLINTON: 2,361
    Middletown Township
    2020
    TRUMP: 4,289
    *BIDEN: 5,882
    2016
    TRUMP: 4,137
    *CLINTON: 4,691
    Millbourne Township
    2020
    TRUMP: 52
    *BIDEN: 319
    2016
    TRUMP: 46
    *CLINTON: 292
    Morton Borough
    2020
    TRUMP: 500
    *BIDEN: 1,075
    2016
    TRUMP: 471
    *CLINTON: 969
    Newtown Township
    2020
    TRUMP: 4,692
    *BIDEN: 5,390
    2016
    *TRUMP: 4,150
    CLINTON: 3,935
    Norwood Borough
    2020
    *TRUMP: 1,746
    BIDEN: 1,557
    2016
    *TRUMP: 1,541
    CLINTON: 1,318
    Parkside Borough
    2020
    TRUMP: 492
    *BIDEN: 716
    2016
    TRUMP: 464
    *CLINTON: 590
    Prospect Park Borough
    2020
    TRUMP: 1,602
    *BIDEN: 1,759
    2016
    *TRUMP: 1,520
    CLINTON: 1,518
    Nether Providence Township
    2020
    TRUMP: 2,772
    *BIDEN: 6,403
    2016
    TRUMP: 2,701
    *CLINTON: 5,516
    Upper Providence Township
    2020
    TRUMP: 2,654
    *BIDEN: 4,626
    2016
    TRUMP: 2,618
    *CLINTON: 3,836
    Radnor Township
    2020
    TRUMP: 5,196
    *BIDEN: 12,265
    2016
    TRUMP: 5,061
    *CLINTON: 10,304
    Ridley Park Borough
    2020
    TRUMP: 2,107
    *BIDEN: 2,574
    2016
    *TRUMP: 1,993
    CLINTON: 1,899
    Ridley Township
    2020
    *TRUMP: 9,226
    BIDEN: 8,659
    2016
    *TRUMP: 8,477
    CLINTON: 7,303
    Rose Valley Borough
    2020
    TRUMP: 583
    *BIDEN: 208
    2016
    TRUMP: 224
    *CLINTON: 487
    Rutledge Borough
    2020
    TRUMP: 195
    *BIDEN: 364
    2016
    TRUMP: 206
    *CLINTON: 302
    Sharon Hill Borough
    2020
    TRUMP: 391
    *BIDEN: 2,324
    2016
    TRUMP: 378
    *CLINTON: 2,230
    Swarthmore Borough
    2020
    TRUMP: 428
    *BIDEN: 3,388
    2016
    TRUMP: 446
    *CLINTON: 3,451
    Springfield Township
    2020
    TRUMP: 7,996
    *BIDEN: 8,698
    2016
    *TRUMP: 7,435
    CLINTON: 7,335
    Thornbury Township
    2020
    *TRUMP: 2,392
    BIDEN: 2,112
    2016
    *TRUMP: 2,172
    CLINTON: 1,884
    Tinicum Township
    2020
    *TRUMP: 1,368
    BIDEN: 796
    2016
    *TRUMP: 1,240
    CLINTON: 713
    Trainer Borough
    2020
    TRUMP: 345
    *BIDEN: 480
    2016
    TRUMP: 330
    *CLINTON: 371
    Upland Borough
    2020
    TRUMP: 451
    *BIDEN: 863
    2016
    TRUMP: 436
    *CLINTON: 751
    Yeadon Borough
    2020
    TRUMP: 299
    *BIDEN: 5,927
    2016
    TRUMP: 249
    *CLINTON: 5,842
    Chester City
    2020
    TRUMP: 889
    *BIDEN: 11,145
    2016
    TRUMP: 859
    *CLINTON: 12,847
    patch.com
    en.wikipedia.org
    en.wikipedia.org


  6. by HatetheSwamp on February 11, 2022 6:34 am

    Wow, Curt. Detailed research.

    The question I have for you is, because of what we now know, based on those three whistle-blower videos, how do you know for certain that any of that is accurate?


  7. by Curt_Anderson on February 11, 2022 9:01 am
    I watched and listened to some, not all, of the videos. Maybe they were accurate but all activity and conversations seemed mundane. No smoking gun like you apparently believed.

    Sometimes you have be logical. Is it really feasible to have a conspiracy on behalf of Joe Biden in which every county clerk, election worker, poll worker, and all the purple states' secretaries of state are involved in the cover-up?


  8. by HatetheSwamp on February 11, 2022 9:41 am

    Is it really feasible to have a conspiracy on behalf of Joe Biden in which every county clerk, election worker, poll worker, and all the purple states' secretaries of state are involved in the cover-up?

    Of course it's not feasible. But, that's not what is being revealed.

    Living in an electric blue, western state, as you do, you can't know what it's like to live in a political environment in which corruption is a given as it is, for example, in the Philadelphia area.

    The election workers in Philadelphia who participated in prohibiting the honest counting of ballots were chosen by the machine and trusted to be good Dem Philadelphia Germans...and, obviously, they were just that, as great grandpa was. It's been in the political culture for GENERATIONS!

    What the whistle-blower videos reveal is conveniently sloppy violations of state election procedures that could allow a few people to diddle the vote.

    You know as well as I, the long history of Dem cheating. It's history. That the Dems have cheated, virtually from the formation of the party, is just fact.

    You're attempting to characterize what tens of millions of people believe as something only a fringe of a few wackos wearing tin foil hats could believe.

    But, there's that history and there's the evidence from 020.

    I have no doubt that you're sincere but your attempt to marginalize us doesn't fly in the real world.


  9. by Curt_Anderson on February 11, 2022 11:29 am
    Sloppiness does not a conspiracy make. You don't seem to point out anything nefarious. You seem to be suspicious merely because people are suspicious.

    Election workers are typically older people who I believe are volunteers or not paid especially well. They may not be the most competent especially when it comes to things that are electronic and/or computerized, but there is no reason to think they aren't well intentioned, patriotic and honest people.

    Biden won Pennsylvania by around 85,000 votes. There was no place that had an abnormal number of votes for Biden, the Democratic candidate, compared to previous years.

    Obviously they did not stick those 85,000 votes in just one polling station. You would have to believe that every borough, hamlet, township and city tossed in a few extra Biden votes to give him that winning total for the state.


  10. by HatetheSwamp on February 11, 2022 11:57 am

    Sloppiness does not a conspiracy make. You don't seem to point out anything nefarious. You seem to be suspicious merely because people are suspicious.

    CONVENIENT sloppiness.

    This is how it's done.

    Based on what we know, you can't say with any certainty that the smoke filled room handlers of "that feckless dementia-ridden piece of crap" didn't diddle 10,000 votes? And, I can't say that they did.

    What's known is that Joe, having spent almost the whole campaign in his basement, somehow, pulled in nearly 20% more votes than Hillary in Pennsylvania.

    Nearly half of likely voters believe that things like that are extremely unlikely.

    We know that there are irregularities in the processing of the vote in Pennsylvania some were blatant, as is the case in Philadelphia, another has only now been revealed by a whistle-blower in a Dem county.

    As far as what's nefarious, the blatant abuse of election integrity in Philadelphia? Now, that's nefarious.

    I get that you believe that Joe's election is legitimate. What nearly half of likely voters believe...with reason...is that there was widespread vote fraud.


  11. by Curt_Anderson on February 11, 2022 12:20 pm
    In Pennsylvania, the native son Joe Biden had 18% more votes that Hillary, not 20% more. Trump had 13% more in 2020 than he did 2016. More people voted. A smaller percent voted for third party candidates.

    William McKinley won election by campaigning only from his front porch. Biden made the election a referendum on Trump. Trump was sliding downward in polls as a result of his own missteps and personal failings.

    Pennsylvania popular vote
    2016 Trump: 2,970,733 48.58%; Clinton: 2,926,441 47.85%
    2020 Trump: 3,377,674 48.84%; Biden: 3,458,229 50.01%


  12. by HatetheSwamp on February 12, 2022 5:42 am

    Curt,

    I was on the ground in Pennsylvania every day of the campaign. I live right outside of Phila-effin-delphia. I listen regularly to two Philly talk radio stations.

    I had no idea that people where chompin at the bit to vote for the Flatulent Fool. I did hear rabid excitement for Trump from his people in the area.

    There's no way that I will ever believe that Biden’s vote total is honest! I have too many reasons to doubt.

    In spite of how easy it is for you to dismiss people who believe that there was widespread voter fraud in the election as a bunch of rubes, the truth is that you're, simply, being sanctimonious.

    There's reason to strongly suspect that the smoke filled room handlers of "that feckless dementia-ridden piece of crap" diddled the election.

    And, we will continue to believe...with conviction.


  13. by Ponderer on February 12, 2022 8:16 am

    I'm reminded of something that the defense used against the DNA evidence in the OJ Simpson trial. There was some question about the tests being handled sloppily and the defense declared that it should therefore be thrown out.

    Logically asserting, I suppose, that when you are sloppy with a DNA sample during a test, it automatically turns into OJ Simpson's DNA.


  14. by Ponderer on February 12, 2022 8:20 am

    Curt, we simply need to be aware that from now on, the only elections that are held fairly and legally are the ones that Republicans win.

    Ya got nothing, Bill. Your cult is operating on nothing but self-delusion.


  15. by HatetheSwamp on February 13, 2022 4:33 am

    How do you know that?

    What we here is Pennsylvania know is that election law was violated in the handling of ballots.

    On this side of the political spectrum, the law matters.


  16. by Curt_Anderson on February 13, 2022 10:44 am
    "What we here is Pennsylvania know is that election law was violated in the handling of ballots." --HtS

    If you "know" that, then there must be news reports of people being charged with election crimes. I looked. I don't see any reports of people being charged or arrested for these alleged election law violations. Being that you live in PA, please link to the reports that I didn't find.

    Surely there must be at least one DA in Pennsylvania willing to charge and prosecute any suspects who engaged in any possible election shenanigans that made it possible for Biden to win the state by about 85,000 votes.

    Now is your chance to put up or shut up, HtS.



  17. by HatetheSwamp on February 13, 2022 11:44 am

    C'mon man. Gimme a break!

    How many times were the many blatant crimes of Tammany Hall prosecuted?

    How usual was it that Mayor Daley's cronies were even charged!!!!!

    In Pennsylvania, nearly all statewide office holders are Dems.

    What's been exposed from Delaware County came to light very recently and there's been no time for an investigation to have been completed. But,...

    ...and you can take this to the bank,...

    ...in Pennsylvania, no charges will be brought.


  18. by Curt_Anderson on February 13, 2022 12:49 pm
    HtS,
    You certainly tenaciously carry on the fight no matter that you lack any evidence or any links to support your claim that there is (or should be) a criminal investigation into election crimes.

    Your theory seems to be that because of supposed election crimes that happened more than 50 and 100 years ago, you think that something untoward happened in Pennsylvania last year? Good luck bringing that "evidence" into court.

    There are Republican district attorneys and other attorneys in Pennsylvania who would be willing to file charges or file lawsuits if there was any there there.

    But you've got nothing.


  19. by islander on February 14, 2022 6:40 am

    Hate wrote: "In Pennsylvania, nearly all statewide office holders are Dems."

    "Pennsylvania has a Democratic triplex and a divided trifecta. The Democratic Party controls the offices of governor, secretary of state, and attorney general. The Republican Party controls both chambers of the state legislature.
    As of February 14, 2022, there are 23 Republican trifectas, 14 Democratic trifectas, and 13 divided governments where neither party holds trifecta control.
    As of February 14, 2022, there are 22 Republican triplexes, 18 Democratic triplexes, and 10 divided governments where neither party holds triplex control."



    ballotpedia.org


  20. by HatetheSwamp on February 14, 2022 6:55 am

    isle,

    We're agreeing. The statewide offices: Governor, Attorney General, etc., are held by Dems. The Governor could, say, appoint a task force, to investigate election integrity. The Attorney General could investigate the evidence of election irregularities. But, the Governor is happy with what they accomplished and the Attorney General is a party hack.


  21. by HatetheSwamp on February 14, 2022 7:14 am

    But you've got nothing.

    We've got memories of the blatant disregard for election integrity in Philadelphia as votes were being counted.

    We've got the Delaware County whistle-blower videos and every reason to be certain that this is the tip of the iceberg.

    With few exceptions, we've accepted the fact that the smoke filled room handlers of "that feckless dementia-ridden piece of crap" pulled it off.

    The Flatulent Fool, who busted the eardrums of the Duchess of Cornwall with a sonic boom fart, is President. Considering the fruit of his, uh, leadership, in foreign affairs and the economy, etc., why you'd have wanted the Former 18 Wheeler as President mystifies, but you got what you want.

    We're convinced that America was scammed. We have strong reason to be convinced. And, we're slobbering, awaiting the next election.

    So, enjoy.

    You got your guy...who can't even lead his own party.


  22. by islander on February 14, 2022 7:46 am

    No. We’re not agreeing.

    Nearly all statewide offices in Pennsylvania are not held by Democrats which was exactly what you asserted. Your backpedaling doesn’t change that. And you’re entitled to hold opinions on the election and the inability of the people of Pennsylvania to govern themselves properly even though your opinions are based purely on your own subjective interpretation of what you call “evidence”.


  23. by HatetheSwamp on February 14, 2022 8:05 am

    No, isle, you don't, wait for it...

    ...UNDERSTAND!!!!!!!!!!!

    Bahahahahahahahahahaha, ahhhhhhhhhhh!

    Get it!!!!!?

    Understand Man...doesn't understand.

    Certainly. GOPs control both Houses of the Legislature. But, each of the members of the Legislature represents a small section of the state. And, the Governor can veto anything the Legislature passes...which he's happy to do when it suits party interests.

    The people who represent the whole state are all Dems, save Pat Toomey in the US Senate.


  24. by islander on February 14, 2022 10:59 am

    You're still trying to backpedal.

    You were talking about statewide officeholders, not members of US congress.


  25. by HatetheSwamp on February 15, 2022 6:50 am

    I hate to have to note this again. You don't UNDERSTAND.

    While we are talking about statewide elected officials, I was illustrating how tight a control the Dems have over what happens in the state. To find a GOP who represents the whole state, I had to go to DC to the US Senate.

    Interestingly, the Pennsylvania Governor will be elected this year. If a GOP wins, many important things will change because election integrity measures from the Legislature won't be blocked. That will be huuuuuuuuuge!!!!!


  26. by islander on February 15, 2022 8:21 am

    "Pennsylvania's GOP-controlled Senate to spend up to $270K on election investigation"

    Here are a few things you need to understand, Hate.

    One is the difference in what your state legislators do and can do, and what the US Congress does and can do. This will help you to understand why your assertion that ‘Nearly all statewide offices in Pennsylvania are held by Democrats’ is false, and then to pretend to be talking about the US Senate is just pure Bull-Sh!t. 

And yes the governor can veto a bill passed by the state legislators...But in all 50 states the legislators can override a governor's veto, and realize this, the Pennsylvania state legislator is controlled by the GOP.




    thehill.com


  27. by HatetheSwamp on February 15, 2022 8:49 am

    I UNDERSTAND...

    ...bahahahahahahahahahaha...

    ...that, according to the Constitution of the Commonwealth, the Legislature can override the Governor's veto, but only by a 2/3 majority. Things being as they are, that's not possible.

    Under-effin-stand?


  28. by islander on February 15, 2022 11:55 am

    Hate wrote: ”Legislature can override the Governor's veto, but only by a 2/3 majority”



    Off course! But that’s just a part of the give and take in politics, the state legislature can limit the governor's veto power like they did last May. Completely bypassing the governor they put the bill on a ballot and let the voters decide to approve the change in the state constitution and since the 1990s Pennsylvania voters have approved 100% of such ballot questions.

    

So, as you can see, with all your blustering nothing you have been saying changes the fact that your assertion is false, “Nearly all statewide offices in Pennsylvania are held by Democrats”. Nor have you in any way shown that the 2020 election results in Pennsylvania are fraudulent.



  29. by HatetheSwamp on February 15, 2022 12:21 pm

    I don't know what it's like in Maine...see I can admit it. Now it's your turn.

    Bahahahahahahahahahaha!

    In Pennsylvania, it's not easy to create a ballot measure. It rarely happens.

    You probably know the Pennsylvania Constitution by heart. My guess is that the limitations on what can become a ballot measure is a matter of what's in the Constitution. In any event, most of what is decided on the ballot in Pennsylvania is generic and unconnected to political ideology.



  30. by islander on February 15, 2022 2:38 pm

    Hate wrote: ”In Pennsylvania, it's not easy to create a ballot measure. It rarely happens.

    You probably know the Pennsylvania Constitution by heart. My guess is that the limitations on what can become a ballot measure is a matter of what's in the Constitution. In any event, most of what is decided on the ballot in Pennsylvania is generic and unconnected to political ideology.”,/b>

    You seem to have forgotten that just a few months ago Pennsylvania voters, against Democrats and the governors objections, approved a GOP referendum to curb the governors powers during emergencies like this pandemic... Governor Wolf had opposed the referendum, but he has no say in what proposals lawmakers put on ballots to amend the state constitution.
 So you see, Hate, this demonstrates that what is decided by ballot is not necessarily generic and unconnected to political ideology. But again, and I will be pleasantly surprised if you ever admit it, you were wrong when you asserted that “Nearly all statewide offices in Pennsylvania are held by Democrats” and that the election results from Pennsylvania are fraudulent.


  31. by Donna on February 15, 2022 2:49 pm
    Despite daily attempts by the Trumposphere to distract their audience from the neck-high doo-doo their Fearless Leader is in, nothing ever sticks.


  32. by HatetheSwamp on February 15, 2022 2:52 pm

    I did not.

    This should illustrate to you Blue MAGA progressives how irate people even in purple Pennsylvania are about your Big Bro ways.

    Because,...

    ...you wanna show me how many blockbuster headlines have come from Pennsylvania ballot measures?


  33. by islander on February 16, 2022 7:24 am

    Hate,

    I think you’ve qualified your original assertions to death...


  34. by HatetheSwamp on February 16, 2022 7:33 am

    In your dreams.


  35. by HatetheSwamp on February 16, 2022 8:04 am

    Despite daily attempts by the Trumposphere to distract their audience from the neck-high doo-doo their Fearless Leader is in, nothing ever sticks. ~Donna

    I despise Trump. I think he's despicable.

    My guess is that the Teflon quality of Trump's appeal frustrates me almost as much as it does you, but I can live with it because it suits my libertarianism.

    What I think your side has to figure out is why voters are willing to accept the crud that Trump brings with him over what you stand for.


  36. by Donna on February 16, 2022 10:53 am
    "I despise Trump. I think he's despicable."

    Doncha think it's kinda nutty to keep repeating that? You've easily posted that line over a hundred times by now.

    Most voters didn't vote for Trump. That was true in 2016 and 2020. In fact the last Republican presidential candidate to win the popular vote was Bush the Lesser in 2004.

    People voted for nutcases like MTG too.

    Why do you think so many Americans vote for obvious whack jobs, Hts?


  37. by HatetheSwamp on February 16, 2022 11:13 am

    For one thing, the choices are limited. You yourself voted for a guy who falsely remembers his days as an 18 wheeler driver, of all things and who, as President, nearly deafened the Duchess of Cornwall with flatulence...and you knew better.

    So, let they who are without sin cast the first stone.


  38. by Curt_Anderson on February 16, 2022 12:03 pm
    "Let they who are without sin cast the first stone" is among the many inane dictums found in the Bible.

    What the hell does that mean? That a politician who gets a fact wrong on occasion is no different than a compulsive liar like Trump? Or that any politician who has ever been accused of something is no different than Trump who in legal jeopardy in about a dozen (maybe more) civil and criminal court cases?

    If we were to take that "cast the first stone" advice seriously, nobody would be able to serve on a jury, preside as a judge or be police officer.


  39. by HatetheSwamp on February 16, 2022 12:30 pm

    I think that the expression is meant to be an attack on self- righteousness...sanctimony.

    You who voted for a man whose mind was so obviously gone...and, for effin PRESIDENT, no less...can't possibly belittle people who voted for a candidate like Marjorie Taylor Greene unless you are sanctimonious.

    I grant that Donna voted for the Flatulent Fool with great misgivings. But you? There's no excuse for you.


  40. by Donna on February 16, 2022 1:05 pm
    Biden wasn't my first choice, but I have no misgivings about voting for him, as a Trump win would likely have ended the American Experiment. The guy has absolutely no respect for the rule of law or anyone who isn't loyal to him. He has the psychological makeup of every tinpot dictator who's ever ruled.


  41. by HatetheSwamp on February 18, 2022 6:28 am

    The thing is, Donna, the American Experiment has survived Trump.

    And, it will survive a President who entered office obviously suffering from significant cognitive decline, even though nearly half of likely voters believed...and still believe...that his smoke filled room handlers swiped the election.

    What we have built here is far more durable than people on your side think it is.


  42. by Donna on February 18, 2022 7:08 am
    That remains to be seen. As long as Trump is alive and free, the American Experiment remains in jeopardy.




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