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New York Times writer grilled for hours on second day of Palin libel trial

By HatetheSwamp
February 5, 2022 10:31 am
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It's not looking good for the NYT.

Williamsonís testimony amounted to a detailed retelling of an error in the making. She explained how the piece in question was conceptualized, researched, written, edited and in the end corrected - twice. But her testimony and the trialís evidence made clear that responsibility for the some of the most problematic parts of the editorial fell to the Timesís editorial page editor at the time, James Bennet, who is expected to testify next week...

The result, as it played out, was a meticulous reconstruction of a complicated - and ultimately tortured - editing process.

Palin is an easy target. The Times was sloppy, unacceptably biased and untruthful.

As you know, I'm a big fan of the liberties guaranteed by the Bill of Rights but, as you Swampcult Blue MAGA Big Brother fans point out, those Rights are not absolute.

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  1. by Curt_Anderson on February 5, 2022 10:35 am
    Palin will lose her lawsuit.

  2. by HatetheSwamp on February 5, 2022 10:56 am

    Why? Because you think she's a moron?

  3. by Curt_Anderson on February 5, 2022 4:37 pm
    Palin claimed the editorial damaged her reputation. Really? More damaging to her reputation than her sordid family life? More damaging than her being a Covid-infected scofflaw? More damaging than the inane comments she's made? After Trump heard her crazy word-salad endorsement in Iowa, he made sure to keep her far away from any other microphone he was near.
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  4. by HatetheSwamp on February 6, 2022 5:09 am

    Be honest with yourself. It would be impossible to damage her reputation with you. Fortunately for her, not everyone is you.

  5. by Curt_Anderson on February 14, 2022 10:42 pm
    Sarah Palin judge will dismiss her libel case, finding no malice by New York Times
    (WaPo)NEW YORK ó A judge on Monday said he will dismiss Sarah Palinís libel case against the New York Times, saying she had not met the legal standard showing that the newspaper acted with ďactual maliceĒ in publishing a 2017 editorial that included an inaccurate claim about her.

    Judge Jed S. Rakoff told the lawyers involved in the case that he will formally issue his ruling after a jury that has been deliberating since Friday returns its decision.

    "Two things are going on here," former deputy assistant attorney general Harry Litman said on CNN Monday afternoon. "There's the actual drama between Palin and The New York Times." Then, he said, "there's this higher threshold" for public figures who try to sue for defamation.
    "Now, when she loses, and she will lose no matter what... It will go up to the second circuit and potentially the Supreme Court," Litman said, "on whether this high threshold in American law, which everyone thought would never be disturbed, in fact should be changed."

  6. by HatetheSwamp on February 15, 2022 4:43 am

    What's interesting about this is that, to the best of my knowledge, Fox hasn't devoted one second to covering the trial. To be fair, I check Fox in the morning to find out what's in the news and watch THE FIVE in the afternoon a few days a week to see what Fox thinks is newsworthy.

    You, Curt, were able to link to CNN and the WaPo. So, clearly, the SwampMedia is charged up.


    I think the continuing focus on Palin by the Swampers has something to do with focusing on a so-called Strawman.

  7. by HatetheSwamp on February 15, 2022 6:26 am

    I hate to have to note this again. You don't UNDERSTAND.

    While we are talking about statewide elected officials, I was illustrating how tight a control the Dems have over what happens in the state. To find a GOP who represents the whole state, I had to go to DC to the US Senate.

    Interestingly, the Pennsylvania Governor will be elected this year. If a GOP wins, many important things will change because election integrity measures from the Legislature won't be blocked. That will be huuuuuuuuuge!!!!!

  8. by HatetheSwamp on February 15, 2022 6:49 am

    Sorry. Wrong thread. Haven't done that for a while.

  9. by Curt_Anderson on February 15, 2022 2:17 pm
    It's remarkable that the woman who repeatedly fearmongered voters with lies like "death panels" thought she had a case against the New York Times for an error that they corrected within hours.

    (New York Times)A jury rejected Sarah Palinís libel suit against The New York Times on Tuesday, finding that there was insufficient evidence to prove the newspaper had defamed her in a 2017 editorial that erroneously linked her political rhetoric to a mass shooting.

    The juryís verdict, which First Amendment advocates applauded as a victory for the longstanding legal precedent that considers an occasional journalistic mistake a necessary cost of discourse in a free society, was the second time this week that Ms. Palinís case was dealt a significant setback.

  10. by Donna on February 15, 2022 2:28 pm
    LOL! Another red herring!

  11. by HatetheSwamp on February 16, 2022 7:32 am

    I'm curious Donna. What do you mean by red herring?

  12. by Curt_Anderson on February 16, 2022 8:56 am
    Are you not familiar with the term red herring, HtS? A red herring is a plot device intended to mislead or distract the audience. Red herrings are used to fool a movie or theater audience but it certainly could apply to Fox viewers as well.

  13. by HatetheSwamp on February 16, 2022 8:58 am

    I'm familiar with the expression. I'm curious about how Donna is applying it here.

  14. by Curt_Anderson on February 16, 2022 9:46 am
    If you look at public political life as a mystery Trump would be an obvious suspect. In this mystery the New York Times, Hillary, etc. momentarily seem like possible villains (to some audience members) who will be revealed as guilty.

    The FOX/Durham or Palin misdirection is an example of that.

  15. by HatetheSwamp on February 16, 2022 10:03 am

    We'll know what's misdirection when Durham's Fat Lady sings.

    The Clintons are notorious crooks. My guess is that, before Durham issues his final report, much criminality will be revealed. Hillary will be untouched. But, anyone with a brain will know the unprovoked truth.

  16. by HatetheSwamp on February 16, 2022 10:07 am

    ...unproven truth.


  17. by Curt_Anderson on February 16, 2022 10:38 am
    Sorry HtS, Durham's report won't result in any convictions.

    The five-year statute of limitations appears to have passed for Durham to accuse Sussmann of any wrongdoing related to his meeting with the CIA. Passing along information from researchers to intelligence officials for further investigation is not uncommon and isn't necessarily a crime.

    In my old job at a manufacturer, we used to say regarding R&D developing new machines, that nothing ever gets done without a deadline.

    John Durham has been allowed to investigate and whatever else he is doing without any time constraints. In fact, if he ever did finish, his job and salary would be over. He's been at it since 2020. So far I believe there have no convictions and just one indictment (of Sussmann for allegedly not telling the FBI he had Hillary as a client) which will result in nothing.

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