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Harris/______?
By Ponderer
July 21, 2024 12:09 pm
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So let's hear the guesses as to who she'll pick for her running mate...

I like the sound of Harris/Whitmer....

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  1. by Indy! on July 21, 2024 12:11 pm
    Whitmer / Harris sounds far better.


  2. by HatetheSwamp on July 21, 2024 12:23 pm

    The reason you'd do it were you Whitmer is to get yourself connected to donors and the smoke-filled room crowd for 028.


  3. by Donna on July 21, 2024 12:25 pm

    I agree, Indy, but I'm more relieved that Biden threw in the towel.

    My VP choice is Gretchen, but I can see them picking Shapiro too.


  4. by Curt_Anderson on July 21, 2024 12:49 pm
    I like Mark Kelly, the Arizona senator and former astronaut as the VP.


  5. by Donna on July 21, 2024 12:52 pm

    He'd be a good pick too.


  6. by oldedude on July 21, 2024 1:10 pm
    If I would be voting dem, any of those sound legitimate. I think Mark Kelly is more of a threat. Just have to wait and see!


  7. by ROB3RT on July 21, 2024 2:12 pm

    I'd put my money on Mark Kelly, too. A safe choice, devoted husband to Gabby Giffords, a moderate on immigration who could help Harris where she needs it. He doesn't help much in the midwest, but I'm skeptical that any of the midwest governors would deliver a state.

    The others being mentioned are Kentucky Gov. Andy Beshear, North Carolina Gov. Roy Cooper, Penn. Gov. Josh Shapiro.

    I could see Ohio Rep. (and former JD Vance opponent) Tim Ryan getting a look. I'm skeptical about two women being on the ticket, so I don't think Whitmer will get picked.



  8. by Donna on July 21, 2024 2:39 pm

    100% in agreement, ROB3RT. Kelly's my top choice for the same reasons.



  9. by Curt_Anderson on July 21, 2024 2:41 pm
    Robert,
    I believe the last vice president selected because of their ability to deliver a state or region was LBJ in 1968. Since then the running mates represented safe states to the top of the ticket. The one exception that I can think of was Spiro Agnew who hailed from the blue state of Maryland---which didn't seem to matter in Nixon's electoral math.

    I would advise against a two-female ticket.

    Harris-Kelly 2024!

    Btw, I am just glad Joe Biden and the powers that be apparently read your op-ed, "Like it or not, Kamala Harris is probably our only hope". See link.
    selectsmart.com


  10. by Ponderer on July 21, 2024 4:19 pm

    I think Kelly is the best choice right now. It would be good for other down ballot Dems in AZ too.


  11. by Indy! on July 21, 2024 5:04 pm

    If the Ds want to win - they better not get cute. Two women or two minorities will probably be a deal killer.


  12. by Curt_Anderson on July 21, 2024 6:11 pm
    I really hope Harris chooses Mark Kelly. Kelly is a centrist who has a good working relationship with his Senate colleagues, including Republicans with whom he was worked on bipartisan legislation.

    That is important because the vice president is also the president of the Senate. In addition to serving as presiding officer, the vice president has the sole power to break a tie vote in the Senate. That could be a big deal again if the Senate is 50/50 again.


  13. by Indy! on July 21, 2024 6:30 pm
    You want to pull a senator when the Ds are always fighting for control?


  14. by ROB3RT on July 21, 2024 6:57 pm

    That is definitely a downside to picking Kelley.

    Harris also has two similar options, former New Orleans mayor Mitch Landrieu and Colorado Sen. Michael Bennett.


  15. by Curt_Anderson on July 21, 2024 7:06 pm
    That is not a downside. Arizona’s Democratic governor would appoint his replacement. Kelly’s term ends in 2028. His replacement might face a special election…not sure about AZ laws…but as the incumbent.


  16. by Indy! on July 22, 2024 11:20 am

    She really needs a governor or the mayor of a big city. I don't know if the NOLA guy was around for Katrina - but if he dealt with that he would be a good choice probably. Congressfolks don't really help her imho in the "experience" and "trust" departments. Voters on the fence want to know there's going to be someone there with executive experience to help out in a possible crisis.


  17. by Curt_Anderson on July 22, 2024 11:30 am
    Indy,
    Kamala has executive experience. As the California attorney general she was the head of the California Department of Justice. She oversaw a staff of over 1,100 attorneys and 3,700 non-attorney employees.

    Trump's criminal activity keeps maybe 100 attorneys busy.


  18. by Indy! on July 22, 2024 11:51 am

    Nope.


  19. by Curt_Anderson on July 22, 2024 12:01 pm
    "Nope" what?


  20. by Indy! on July 22, 2024 12:25 pm

    Only people like yourself - party Ds who will never vote for anyone without a D next to their name - care about things like being AG. It looks good on the resumé - it doesn't relive regular folks' concerns as to whether she is ready to lead the country. Just like being veep - nobody cares. Find a real executive with experience and pick him. Not another Tim Kaine, John Edwards or Joe LIEberman.


  21. by Indy! on July 22, 2024 12:25 pm

    *relieve


  22. by Curt_Anderson on July 22, 2024 12:47 pm
    Indy,
    I have never heard a person (regular or otherwise) say that having executive experience on a presidential ticket mattered, much less a deciding factor. It didn't matter to voters when they elected Biden-Harris, Obama-Biden, Bush-Quayle, Johnson-Humphrey, Kennedy-Johnson, etc.

    Anyway, Harris was in charge of the largest law firm (public or private) in the country. That's executive experience that matters more than whatever number of housemaids and dishwashers Trump employs.


  23. by Indy! on July 22, 2024 1:11 pm

    Wow - surprised you didn't stop yourself at the POST button on that one.

    Biden/Harris - Biden was the "experience" guy

    Obama/Biden - Biden was specifically chosen to offset Obama's inexperience

    Bush/Quayle - now we're in ancient history which doesn't apply, but Bush was the experience guy - he ran the CIA

    Johnson/Humphrey - Johnson was already president

    Kennedy/Johnson: See "Obama/Biden" replace Biden with Johnson

    I'm assuming you know exactly what I'm talknig about - but are just playing obtuse. BTW - you would have been better going with Clinton/Gore. 😌


  24. by Curt_Anderson on July 22, 2024 1:59 pm
    LBJ had less than a year of chief executive experience. Elder Bush’s being head of The CIA is comparable to Kamala Harris is being head of the California Department of Justice.

    Anyway, it’s comical that you’re concerned about executive experience when your preferred candidates are Marianne Williamson and Bernie Sanders.


  25. by Indy! on July 22, 2024 2:01 pm

    Agree to disagree and the point remains - Kamala is not going to get by on her... ahem... "experience" alone. Pick someone sketchy or another R in D clothing like Kaine or Lieberman and her loss will be even greater.


  26. by Curt_Anderson on July 22, 2024 2:25 pm
    I never suggested the Harris was going to get by on her experience alone. I said the opposite: I said it won't be a deciding factor for voters.


  27. by Indy! on July 22, 2024 6:32 pm

    Right - because she did so AWESOME the last time she ran for president. 🙄


  28. by Curt_Anderson on July 22, 2024 6:51 pm
    Indy,
    2020 in the wake of George Floyd’s murder was the wrong time for a prosecutor to be running for elected office. 2024 is the right time to run against a habitual criminal. See my post “I already like the way he is taking on Trump“.


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