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Senate Republicans to introduce nationwide abortion ban
By Donna
September 13, 2022 7:34 am
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U.S. Senator Lindsey Graham (R-SC) will lead Senate Republicans in a push to pass a nationwide ban on abortion in a press conference Tuesday, less than two months before the November midterms, according to multiple reports.

Despite wording in an apparent press release calling it a “late-term” abortion ban, The Washington Post’s Caroline Kitchener says it is expected to call for a ban on all abortions at or after 15 weeks.

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  1. by HatetheSwamp on September 13, 2022 7:42 am

    Good!

    Check your polling, Donna...and pb knows that you know the laws in Europe.

    A ban after 13 weeks is supported by a majority of Americans...

    ...and, most importantly, pb! Baha

    The legislation that the Dems tried to foist on America twice in this Congress allows for abortion up to the moment of delivery. That ain't passing.

    But, this bill has a chance.

  2. by Donna on September 13, 2022 8:00 am

    At 14 weeks, the share saying abortion should be legal declines to 34%, while 27% say illegal and 22% say “it depends.”






    pewresearch.org

  3. by HatetheSwamp on September 13, 2022 8:10 am

    So, 1/3 think abortion should be legal at 14 weeks, the rest of say it shouldn't be or don't know.

    The obvious rhetorical question is what percentage support the provisions of the Women's Health Protection Act, the Dem bill that green lights abortion, without restriction, to the end?

    pb said, even before the Dobbs decision was published, that the party that gets to legalizing the Mississippi law first, wins the issue.

    He's right.

  4. by Donna on September 13, 2022 8:22 am

    61% of Americans say that abortion should be legal on most cases. Most Americans prefer to be allowed to make up their own minds on deeply personal issues like abortion instead of allowing Big Brother to dictate it.

    The MAGA states might prefer strict laws against abortion, but the rest of America doesn't. So carry on, Lindsey.

  5. by HatetheSwamp on September 13, 2022 8:27 am

    pb stands on his belief that, given the concrete choice between Graham's bill and the Women's Health Protection Act, a huuuuuuuuuge majority will opt for the GOP bill.

  6. by Curt_Anderson on September 13, 2022 8:41 am
    HtS,
    I am not going to be among those who question your political acumen. In fact, I think you should tell as many people as possible about the Republicans' ideas on banning abortion nationwide. Especially tell young people and women, they will be impressed!

  7. by Donna on September 13, 2022 8:46 am
    Absolutely! Go for it Lindsey!

    According to the latest Arizona Public Opinion Pulse (AZPOP) survey, 52% of registered voters in Arizona oppose the Supreme Court overturning Roe v. Wade.   

    This issue alone is causing purple states to turn blue.





    blog.ohpredictive.com

  8. by HatetheSwamp on September 13, 2022 8:47 am

    I'll be glad to, Curt. Graham's bill is, in part, a response to the Dems' attempt TWICE in this Congress, to legalize abortion, up to the moment of delivery, without restriction...nationwide...in this Congress alone!

    Maybe you know. I don't. In how many states is abortion legal today up to the moment of delivery and without restriction?

  9. by Donna on September 13, 2022 8:57 am

    The WHPA does not state that, Hts. Your MAGA media sources are lying.

    A few weeks ago, you and islander debated that, and islander did a good job setting the record straight on what the WHPA actually says.

    Btw, in my previous post regarding the Arizona poll, it's noteworthy that 45% of Democrats and 45% of Indies strongly oppose the Dobbs ruling.

  10. by HatetheSwamp on September 13, 2022 9:10 am

    Donna,

    I read the bill four times by now. It permits abortion, without restriction, up to the moment of delivery.

    Introduced in Senate (05/03/2022) This bill prohibits governmental restrictions on the provision of, and access to, abortion services.

    isle's full of bullfernerner.

  11. by islander on September 13, 2022 12:18 pm

    Hate wrote: "Graham's bill is, in part, a response to the Dems' attempt TWICE in this Congress, to legalize abortion, up to the moment of delivery, without restriction...nationwide"

    Donna is correct, it was made clear to you a few weeks ago that this is an attempt at deceive. Waiting a while and then repeating the same lie is just another troll tactic.

    Virtually all Americans who are given the whole story, not just a part of it, agree with the Dem's proposal. After viability abortions can be restricted...However, in an attempt to deceive that part that is left out. After viability, abortions could not be restricted in instances where the mother's life or health would be threatened. And that is something very few Americans would be in favor of prohibiting.


  12. by HatetheSwamp on September 13, 2022 12:33 pm

    Introduced in Senate (05/03/2022) This bill prohibits governmental restrictions on the provision of, and access to, abortion services.

  13. by islander on September 13, 2022 1:42 pm

    Hate wrote:Introduced in Senate (05/03/2022) This bill prohibits governmental restrictions [notice it doesn't say "any" restrictions] on the provision of, and access to, abortion services.

    If you had been honest and continued, this is what you would have said, "The bill explains what is prohibited." And you would have pointed out that in section(8) it says that the government can't issue A prohibition on abortion at any point or points in time prior to fetal viability, including a prohibition or restriction on a particular abortion procedure.

    Well then, what about after viability? What else does the bill say the government can't prohibit? It can't issue A prohibition on abortion after fetal viability when, in the good-faith medical judgment of the treating health care provider, continuation of the pregnancy would pose a risk to the pregnant patient’s life or health. section (9)

  14. by HatetheSwamp on September 13, 2022 3:14 pm

    This bill prohibits governmental restrictions on the provision of, and access to, abortion services.

    What that means is that, according to the bill, governmental restrictions in the providing of abortion, or access to it, are prohibited.

  15. by islander on September 13, 2022 4:09 pm

    half-truth
    [ haf-trooth, hahf- ]

    See synonyms for: half-truth / half-truths on Thesaurus.com
    noun, plural half-truths [haf-troothz, hahf-].

    a statement that is only partly true, especially one intended to deceive, evade blame, or the like.

    a statement that fails to divulge the whole truth.

  16. by oldedude on September 13, 2022 6:34 pm
    "U.S. Senator Lindsey Graham (R-SC) will lead Senate Republicans in a push to pass a nationwide ban on abortion in a press conference Tuesday, less than two months before the November midterms, according to multiple reports.

    Despite wording in an apparent press release calling it a “late-term” abortion ban, The Washington Post’s Caroline Kitchener says it is expected to call for a ban on all abortions at or after 15 weeks."

    So your statement in the thread is a:
    half-truth
    [ haf-trooth, hahf- ]

    See synonyms for: half-truth / half-truths on Thesaurus.com
    noun, plural half-truths [haf-troothz, hahf-].

    a statement that is only partly true, especially one intended to deceive, evade blame, or the like.

    a statement that fails to divulge the whole truth.
    your refusal to actually "appear" to look at the other side is laughable. You're nothing better than a total MAGA or a Klansman willing to kill people for your own "thoughts" however shallow they are.

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