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Anna Navarro says out loud what's outright evil in pro-abortion thinking

By HatetheSwamp
June 26, 2022 8:11 am
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"I am not anybody to tell you what you need to do with your life or with your uterus." She then mentioned special needs people in her family, saying, "I have a family with a lot of special needs kids. I have a brother who's 57 and has the mental and motor skills of a one-year-old. And I know what that means financially, emotionally, physically for a family. And I know not all families can do it."

She also spoke of her "step-granddaughter who was born with Down syndrome" and her "step-grandson who is very autistic, who has autism," adding that it is "difficult" for their families to "get services."

It was clear Navarro was stating that many folks need the option to end the lives of these individuals while they’re still in the womb.


Eugenics. Woke Nazi-ism.

Is this what all pro-abortion people think? Probably not. But, there's no denying some do.

You can understand why many pro-life people think that theirs is a righteous cause and why they're willing to die for the cause.


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Comments on "Anna Navarro says out loud what's outright evil in pro-abortion thinking ":

  1. by Donna on June 26, 2022 11:13 am
    Why shouldn't a mother have the freedom to choose a course of action that would save her family from financial ruin?

    My mom is a devout Christian, lifelong Republican, and pro-choice. And I've already shared the story of a Christian friend of mine whose sister was born with cerebral palsy so severe that she isn't able to speak control her bodily movements. Raising her put such an incredible strain on her family that my friend said if she ever carried a child her doctor said had a condition that severe, she wouldn't hesitate to abort that child. Why would you want to take away her right to do that?


  2. by HatetheSwamp on June 26, 2022 11:35 am

    I'm just saying that it smacks of eugenics. It's why some pro-lifers think theirs is a righteous cause.

    I'm sure you recall from your Navigator days, Jesus talked about what you do for the least of these, you're doing for Him.


  3. by islander on June 26, 2022 11:41 am
    It doesn’t cost a penny to be anti-choice. For many it’s a cheap and easy way to feel self righteous...until they have to make that choice.

    If a pregnant woman should hear the terrible words from her physician, Trisomy 13, who should make the choice? Should she be forced to ensure that her child will have a lifetime of suffering, even if that lifetime is just a few hours or a day or two? Who has more of a right to make that choice than the mother?

    “Patau syndrome [Trysomy 13] is a syndrome caused by a chromosomal abnormality, in which some or all of the cells of the body contain extra genetic material from chromosome 13. The extra genetic material disrupts normal development, causing multiple and complex organ defects.
    Screening tests in the first trimester may suggest Patau's or another chromosomal abnormality. ... A mid-pregnancy ultrasound scan may show up some abnormalities. Further tests such as amniocentesis or chorionic villus sampling (CVS) are needed to confirm the diagnosis. @ TMSS Medical College

    healthjade.com


  4. by Donna on June 26, 2022 11:46 am
    I recall that from my 25-year long Lutheran days.

    I personally feel that aborting a severely brain damaged child is the most loving thing a mother in that situation could do, not only for her family, but also for her child.


  5. by islander on June 26, 2022 11:55 am

    "I Found the Outer Limits of My Pro-choice Beliefs"

    "In an ultrasound room far from home, I discovered more than I was looking for."

    "One day about seven months ago, I was standing in a dark room in a hospital not far from Tel Aviv, performing an ultrasound on the taut belly of a woman well into her third trimester. She was 35 weeks pregnant, due in about a month. She and I felt the fetus kick, right under the ultrasound probe. “Strong one!” I said in Hebrew. She smiled. I managed to freeze a sweet picture of the bow-shaped fetal upper lip, and pressed “Print,” to give to her later.

    Then I measured the fetal head, snug against her pelvic bone. The numbers on-screen suggested that it was too small. I measured it again. Still small. So I measured it again, and again, and again. Everything else in this pregnancy looked healthy: the volume of amniotic fluid, the general size of the fetus, the structure of the heart and brain. According to the woman’s chart, everything had been fine, all the way through.

    At that point, I needed to tell her about that small head and what it might mean for her future child’s development. This is not uncommon; it’s a situation I’m used to dealing with easily. But in that room, I was overcome with a strong urge not to tell her what I’d observed, because I feared where that discussion might lead. I am an American ob-gyn. In most states in my native country, third-trimester abortions are illegal or nearly inaccessible. In practice, only a handful of facilities in the entire United States perform abortions after 26 weeks for nonlethal anomalies. But here in Israel, abortion is widely available and can be offered until delivery. A subtle abnormality, such as the one I saw in that ultrasound room outside Tel Aviv, can prompt a discussion of pregnancy termination. Even at 35 weeks.

    Within the American abortion debate, I am pro-choice in a concrete way. Giving women information about their pregnancies and helping them assess their options, including termination, is part of my life’s work. When state legislatures in Georgia, Louisiana, and a host of other states have taken up bills to limit abortion rights, I have always known which side I am on.


    Read the rest here:
    theatlantic.com


  6. by Donna on June 26, 2022 12:56 pm
    Thanks for posting that, islander. I read the entire piece. So many facets to the abortion issue. It isn't nearly as cut and dried as so many Americans make it out to be.


  7. by Curt_Anderson on June 26, 2022 1:37 pm
    Resources are not infinite. Whatever time, care, energy and money was spent on Anna Navarro's brother came at the expense of others. Maybe they made the sacrifice cheerfully, but I am sure it was burden nonetheless.


  8. by islander on June 27, 2022 4:48 am

    ”It isn't nearly as cut and dried as so many Americans make it out to be.”

    You’re right Donna...Thinking about this requires the ability to hold a complex thought and that requires work. It’s easier to just grab onto one aspect and block out or ignore the rest. Some people, unfortunately, are genuinely unable to hold a complex thought and some are just lazy. Those are the ones who see this in terms of black and white and think in terms of absolutes.


  9. by HatetheSwamp on June 27, 2022 5:12 am

    You’re right Donna...Thinking about this requires the ability to hold a complex thought and that requires work. It’s easier to just grab onto one aspect and block out or ignore the rest. Some people, unfortunately, are genuinely unable to hold a complex thought and some are just lazy. Those are the ones who see this in terms of black and white and think in terms of absolutes.

    Exactly!

    As I live life, I can't tell you how many of us, on the other side of the ideological spectrum, tell me that they wish they could be an enlightened, woke progressive.

    We all know it. You are just, simply, intellectually and morally, well, better.


  10. by islander on June 27, 2022 5:24 am

    "You are just, simply, intellectually and morally, well, better."

    If that's what you believe, then I guess that's what you would call "your own truth"...You know, according to your philosophy of "subjectivity is truth".

    But like I keep telling you, your subjective truth does not always conform to objective reality.


  11. by HatetheSwamp on June 27, 2022 5:34 am

    Bahahahahahahahahahaha, isle.

    I was responding to YOUR post. It's YOUR truth.


  12. by islander on June 27, 2022 6:23 am

    "I was responding to YOUR post. It's YOUR truth."

    That once again is your "subjective truth". Your truths are becoming more and more delusional. It can't be "my truth since" it does not conform to reality...Of course "I" don't believe your nonsensical truths as much as you want to pretend that I do.


  13. by HatetheSwamp on June 27, 2022 7:40 am

    Only you wrote this, isle:

    Thinking about this requires the ability to hold a complex thought and that requires work. It’s easier to just grab onto one aspect and block out or ignore the rest. Some people, unfortunately, are genuinely unable to hold a complex thought and some are just lazy. Those are the ones who see this in terms of black and white and think in terms of absolutes.

    Just know. I'm convinced that every antiSwamper who's ever encountered you, wants to be you.

    You, truly, UNDERSTAND.


  14. by islander on June 27, 2022 8:02 am

    ”Just know. I'm convinced that every antiSwamper who's ever encountered you, wants to be you.”

    That’s alright. You can believe whatever you want. What you can’t do is project your beliefs onto me as if they are my beliefs too.


  15. by HatetheSwamp on June 27, 2022 8:08 am

    Hey, buddy. I only have your words. I'm confident that you entered them here with absolute transparency.


  16. by islander on June 27, 2022 8:43 am

    "Hey, buddy. I only have your words"

    Then you know I never said anything about others wishing they were me.


  17. by HatetheSwamp on June 27, 2022 8:57 am

    Well, I'm only surmising. I know I do. And. I'm pretty sure OD does, too!

    You splained it so well:

    Thinking about this requires the ability to hold a complex thought and that requires work. It’s easier to just grab onto one aspect and block out or ignore the rest. Some people, unfortunately, are genuinely unable to hold a complex thought and some are just lazy. Those are the ones who see this in terms of black and white and think in terms of absolutes.

    Happily for you, you're not "some people." We all know that you are a cut above...as you yourself suggest.



  18. by islander on June 27, 2022 9:13 am

    So I suppose you disagree? And in fact you think there are no people who don’t or can’t think beyond, “an embryo is nothing but a clump of cells”, and will block out anything else? And you think there are no people who call a blastocyst or embryo a “baby" (a human person) and block out anything else?...I’ve known both...But I don’t know anybody who fits your description of “wishing they were me”.


  19. by HatetheSwamp on June 27, 2022 9:38 am

    What I agree with is that you are convinced that you are superior to "some people," and that the reason they disagree with you is that lack the ability to think with the clarity and sophistication you are capable of.

    D@mnit! You're just better!

    And, you know it.


  20. by islander on June 27, 2022 2:21 pm

    Hatr wrote: ?D@mnit! You're just better!

    And, you know it."



    Better at what?

    I do know I'm better at some things than some people and some people are better than me at those same things.

    Just curious, do you suffer from an inferiority complex?


  21. by HatetheSwamp on June 27, 2022 2:29 pm

    Thinking, isle. Thinking. You're better at thinking. You UNDER effin STAND!

    Thinking about this requires the ability to hold a complex thought and that requires work.

    You work at thinking. You're smarter than we are.

    Obviously, people who disagree with you disagree with you because they are inferior to you because they don't think hard enough to agree with you.

    And, we all wish we could be you...


  22. by islander on June 27, 2022 2:39 pm

    Hate says:""You work at thinking. You're smarter than we are."

    Do you have an inferiority complex?

    It doesn't bother me that there are some people who are better than me at thinking...In fact, I've learned a lot from them.


  23. by HatetheSwamp on June 27, 2022 2:43 pm

    We only have your words:

    Thinking about this requires the ability to hold a complex thought and that requires work. It’s easier to just grab onto one aspect and block out or ignore the rest. Some people, unfortunately, are genuinely unable to hold a complex thought and some are just lazy. Those are the ones who see this in terms of black and white and think in terms of absolutes.

    You think...

    ...a lot of yourself.


  24. by islander on June 27, 2022 2:55 pm

    "You think...

    ...a lot of yourself."


    Yes! I do! I like myself.

    It's beginning to sound to me like you don't think very much of "yourself".

    Do you have an inferiority complex?


  25. by HatetheSwamp on June 27, 2022 3:08 pm

    No, but I can smell sanctimony all the way from Maine to Amish country in Pennsylvania.


  26. by islander on June 27, 2022 4:10 pm

    What, in your opinion, does sanctimony mean ???

    I always took it to mean:

    sanctimony (n.)

    1530s, "piety, devoutness, sanctity," a sense now obsolete, from French sanctimonie, from Latin sanctimonia "sacredness, holiness, virtuousness," from sanctus "holy" (see saint (n.)). The surviving sense of "external appearance of devoutness, hypocritical or affected piety" is by 1610s.

    I don't think of myself as being particularly pious or holy, especially compared to you since, as you have told us...you are follower of Jesus and one of God's prophets.


  27. by HatetheSwamp on June 28, 2022 3:06 am

    SELF-righteous. Holier-than-thou. Smug. Bigoted.


  28. by islander on June 28, 2022 5:35 am

    How to recognize a sanctimonious person

    Honest, straightforward argumentation with them is virtually impossible since a sanctimonious person doesn’t actually engage his opponent's arguments, but rather he simply mocks them, makes extensive use of ad homonyms and childish name calling, projects his own faults on his opponents and then, curiously, calls his opponents “sanctimonious”.


  29. by HatetheSwamp on June 28, 2022 5:57 am

    I always shut down when, when making his or her or their point, he or she or they reminds me that he or she or they know that they are better and smarter than I am. But, I do guffaw...

    Thinking about this requires the ability to hold a complex thought and that requires work. It’s easier to just grab onto one aspect and block out or ignore the rest. Some people, unfortunately, are genuinely unable to hold a complex thought and some are just lazy. Those are the ones who see this in terms of black and white and think in terms of absolutes.

    I will say this, in all sincerity, isle. At least you are flummoxed when I point out your spurious claims to be better than people who disagree with you.

    Curt and po simply say, in effect, "D@mn straight!"


  30. by islander on June 28, 2022 6:41 am

    That's one of your beliefs that has its roots in your inferiority complex.

    It's a common one, the fear that "someone" might think they are smarter than them.

    One thing you can do to help you overcome that is to try not to worry so much about what other people might think.


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