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Joel Osteen: 'Milt' and Barack are both Christians.

Posted by pb 
pb
Joel Osteen: 'Milt' and Barack are both Christians.
April 27, 2012 05:31PM
[www.christianpost.com]

I have some problems with ol' Joel's definition of a Christian.
Re: Joel Osteen: 'Milt' and Barack are both Christians.
April 29, 2012 12:29AM
Who owns the copyright on the label "Christian?"

Obama and Romney both qualify as Christians by any common sense definition, though I'm content to let Romney lose the election because of Born-Again bigotry against Mormons.

Joel Osteen is the target of a lot of Born-Again hate, too, because he has realized their "culture wars" are a lost cause, and has moved on to personal empowerment/positive thinking/motivational seminar type stuff, consequently becoming the most successful Christian preacher on the scene today, much to the chagrin of old school anti-gay/porn/abortion/evolution conservatives.



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 04/29/2012 11:23PM by linc.
pb
Re: Joel Osteen: 'Milt' and Barack are both Christians.
April 30, 2012 06:48PM
linc Wrote:
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> Who owns the copyright on the label "Christian?"
>
>
> Obama and Romney both qualify as Christians by any
> common sense definition, though I'm content to let
> Romney lose the election because of Born-Again
> bigotry against Mormons.

Not sure you have the authority here to be claiming what is 'common sense.'
>
> Joel Osteen is the target of a lot of Born-Again
> hate, too, because he has realized their "culture
> wars" are a lost cause, and has moved on to
> personal empowerment/positive
> thinking/motivational seminar type stuff,
> consequently becoming the most successful
> Christian preacher on the scene today, much to the
> chagrin of old school
> anti-gay/porn/abortion/evolution conservatives.

Most successful Christian preacher?

Really?
Re: Joel Osteen: 'Milt' and Barack are both Christians.
April 30, 2012 10:03PM
pb writes,

Quote:
Not sure you have the authority here to be claiming what is 'common sense.'


The majority of Americans agree with me that both Obama and Romney are Christians. Ironically, extreme right-wing Christians believe that Mormons are "not Christians" and yet they favor Romney. Mitt has the idiot vote locked down, Obama has the rest of us.
Sam
Re: Joel Osteen: 'Milt' and Barack are both Christians.
April 30, 2012 11:29PM
pb
Re: Joel Osteen: 'Milt' and Barack are both Christians.
May 01, 2012 06:50PM
linc Wrote:
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> pb writes,
>
>
>
> The majority of Americans agree with me that both
> Obama and Romney are Christians.

Data?

> Ironically,
> extreme right-wing Christians believe that Mormons
> are "not Christians" and yet they favor Romney.
> Mitt has the idiot vote locked down, Obama has the
> rest of us.

Guess they'd rather vote for a Mormon than a Muslim, eh?
Sam
Re: Joel Osteen: 'Milt' and Barack are both Christians.
May 01, 2012 06:54PM
Who are you voting for, pb?
pb
Re: Joel Osteen: 'Milt' and Barack are both Christians.
May 01, 2012 08:09PM
Sam Wrote:
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> Who are you voting for, pb?

What I know is that I will not vote for the ONE. It remains to be seen who will be alternative candidates. But, the meaning of my vote will be to reject po's Messiah.
Sam
Re: Joel Osteen: 'Milt' and Barack are both Christians.
May 01, 2012 08:20PM
Spoken like a true Republican.
pb
Re: Joel Osteen: 'Milt' and Barack are both Christians.
May 01, 2012 08:28PM
Sam Wrote:
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> Spoken like a true Republican.

No.

A true Republican would talk about voting GOP, not choosing among alternative candidates. C'mon, sam!

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"...this was the moment when the rise of the oceans began to slow and our planet began to heal; this was the moment when we ended a war and secured our nation and restored our image as the last, best hope on Earth." -- the ONE, Billy Joe McAllister Day 2008
Re: Joel Osteen: 'Milt' and Barack are both Christians.
May 01, 2012 08:51PM
Spoken like a true Republican.


Obama is not Muslim. If you would like to convince us that he is, please provide data.

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Tax the rich & raise minimum wage.
pb
Re: Joel Osteen: 'Milt' and Barack are both Christians.
May 01, 2012 10:09PM
sardonicadonis Wrote:
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> Spoken like a true Republican.
>
>
> Obama is not Muslim. If you would like to convince
> us that he is, please provide data.

You didn't read what I wrote. I said that the 'Christians' who are backing Milt, who is a Mormon, may be doing so rather than supporting Obama who is a Muslim.

Sardo, you aren't claiming not to know that more than a few Americans genuinely believe that Obama is a Muslim are you? Polls that I've seen over the last few years suggest that a surprisingly high number of GOPs. TPers and Fundamentalist Christians hold that opinion.

Do I think he is?

Well, your fellow Christophobes here often like to raise the question of what we Christians think is the definition of a Christian. Understanding that there are a variety of defnitions of that sort of thing, I'd say that, depending on the definition, yes. O is a Muslim. But, it'd have to be a very broad defintion.
Sam
Re: Joel Osteen: 'Milt' and Barack are both Christians.
May 01, 2012 10:18PM
omg
pb
Re: Joel Osteen: 'Milt' and Barack are both Christians.
May 01, 2012 10:21PM
Sam Wrote:
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> omg

huh?

Depending on the definition, YOU are a Muslim, sandy!
Sam
Re: Joel Osteen: 'Milt' and Barack are both Christians.
May 01, 2012 10:24PM
Stupider and stupider...
pb
Re: Joel Osteen: 'Milt' and Barack are both Christians.
May 01, 2012 10:27PM
Depending on the definition, YOU are also stupid.
Sam
Re: Joel Osteen: 'Milt' and Barack are both Christians.
May 01, 2012 10:45PM
yikes
pb
Re: Joel Osteen: 'Milt' and Barack are both Christians.
May 02, 2012 05:43PM
Well, yes, yikes--depending on the definition. hot smiley
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