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Unbelievable and Crazy Federal Funding/Grant Research from $899,769 to $9.4 million

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Quote: NIH-Backed Study Examined Effects of Penis Size in Gay CommunityNIH-Backed Study Examined Effects of Penis Size in Gay Community [www.foxnews.com]
Though it's difficult to trace exactly how much federal funding went to the project, the study was one of many linked to an $899,769 grant in 2006. The grant was administered by NIH's National Institute on Drug Abuse, and went first to a group called Public Health Solutions and a researcher with the National Development and Research Institutes before going to individual researchers.

A Traditional Values Coalition release stated that at least $9.4 million went to a 10-year study that included the penis-size research -- but Parsons said it appears that references a much broader "post-doctoral training program" of which the penis-study funding was a "small" part.

This country is broke and we cannot spend money on this kind of stuff," said Andrea Lafferty, president of the Traditional Values Coalition, which drew attention to the report as part of a six-month investigation into NIH grants for examples of "institutional waste."

"We're spending money on wacky stuff," Lafferty said.

In short, the federal research funding or grant is ranging from $899,769 to $9.4 million which is your tax dollars money.

I believe that “Judgment is coming to America.”[www.selectsmart.com] If we do not repent as a nation, by humbling ourselves and seek His face and pray that by God’s grace, He might hear our prayers in heaven, and forgive our sins, and heal our land.

For those who are supporting this research and/or grant funding, please reply 1 and those who are oppose this funding, please reply 2. You might add comments why you choose 1 or 2.

Remember …there is no neutrality or in between about this research. You either “support or oppose.”



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 07/20/2011 06:53PM by Believer.
Jun
Re: Unbelievable and Crazy Federal Funding/Grant Research from $899,769 to $9.4 million
July 20, 2011 08:11PM
What were you searching for when you found this article Believer? smiling smiley

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Jun Wrote:
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> What were you searching for when you found this
> article Believer? smiling smiley


I like foxnews and I saw it in their listing.
Jun,

By the way, do you support or oppose this research/grant funding?
Re: Unbelievable and Crazy Federal Funding/Grant Research from $899,769 to $9.4 million
July 20, 2011 09:47PM
"Though it's difficult to trace exactly how much federal funding went to the project, the study was one of many linked to an $899,769 grant in 2006."

So. we don't know how much went towards this particular project. You therefore don't even know how much of your tax dollars money you are even complaining about.

So you like FOX, eh? That explains a lot. You can be assured that they are leaving out important aspects of the story to make it sound as horrendous as possible. And do you think for a second that there haven't been studies and research done into health aspects of heterosexual sex that would sound just as ludicrous after such a redacted, cursory glance?

I realize that most people like Believer probably think nothing should be spent on researching health concerns of homosexuals. They can all just drop dead for all they care. Meanwhile, millions in tax dollars go un-reproached towards supplying Viagra for heterosexual men through government funded insurance programs.

Do I support or oppose such research? No comment. I don't have enough information upon which to make an informed opinion.

So Believer, are you against any government funded research going towards the health concerns of homosexuals or just any government funded research being done that directly involves penises in general?

Pondy, yep, shouda known. smiling smiley I'm a Foxer, too. thumbs up

BTW, does anyone watch the Ed show? The guy always seems to be mad. I have a hard time watching him he is so homely.
Ponderer Wrote:
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> "Though it's difficult to trace exactly how much
> federal funding went to the project, the study was
> one of many linked to an $899,769 grant in 2006."

> So. we don't know how much went towards this
> particular project. You therefore don't even know
> how much of your tax dollars money you are even
> complaining about.


Regardless of that amount, the issue here is, they were supporting a research funding that is not related to "health." Go back to the article and PLEASE read again the following paragraphs:

1 and 4 and see what it says.



> So you like FOX, eh? That explains a lot. You can
> be assured that they are leaving out important
> aspects of the story to make it sound as
> horrendous as possible. And do you think for a
> second that there haven't been studies and
> research done into health aspects of heterosexual
> sex that would sound just as ludicrous after such
> a redacted, cursory glance?


The research was not related to health but to "pleasure."



> I realize that most people like Believer probably
> think nothing should be spent on researching
> health concerns of homosexuals. They can all just
> drop dead for all they care. Meanwhile, millions
> in tax dollars go un-reproached towards supplying
> Viagra for heterosexual men through government
> funded insurance programs.


I am not against health research but to pleasure research, which I am oppose.


> Do I support or oppose such research? No comment.
> I don't have enough information upon which to make
> an informed opinion.


Remember that either you support or oppose. No neutrality or in between.


> So Believer, are you against any government funded
> research going towards the health concerns of
> homosexuals or just any government funded research
> being done that directly involves penises in
> general?


Yes for health research and BIG NO for pleasure research as mentioned in this news article.
Re: Unbelievable and Crazy Federal Funding/Grant Research from $899,769 to $9.4 million
July 20, 2011 11:09PM
"Regardless of that amount, the issue here is, they were supporting a research funding that is not related to "health." Go back to the article and PLEASE read again the following paragraphs: 1 and 4 and see what it says." -Believer

Paragraph 1:
The federal government helped fund a study that examined what effect a gay man's penis size has on his sex life and general well-being.

Paragraph 4:
Though it's difficult to trace exactly how much federal funding went to the project, the study was one of many linked to an $899,769 grant in 2006. The grant was administered by NIH's National Institute on Drug Abuse, and went first to a group called Public Health Solutions and a researcher with the National Development and Research Institutes before going to individual researchers.

So?

You are aware that this FOX story is very likely ignoring the actual health aspects the study was intended to establish in the first place, are you not? FOX is extremely famous for rearranging and constructing stories only loosely based, if at all, on one or two facts which are then taken entirely out of context in order to push whatever propaganda they are engaged in. That's how propaganda works and FOX is the best at it there is out there.

Not knowing the real specifics of this research, it is irresponsible to pick out one tiny fact that the study may have come across in its process and focus on it as if it was the whole purpose of the study to begin with.

Ponderer Wrote:
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> "Regardless of that amount, the issue here is,
> they were supporting a research funding that is
> not related to "health." Go back to the article
> and PLEASE read again the following paragraphs: 1
> and 4 and see what it says." -Believer
>
> Paragraph 1:
> The federal government helped fund a study that
> examined what effect a gay man's penis size has on
> his sex life and general well-being.
>
> Paragraph 4:
> Though it's difficult to trace exactly how much
> federal funding went to the project, the study was
> one of many linked to an $899,769 grant in 2006.
> The grant was administered by NIH's National
> Institute on Drug Abuse, and went first to a group
> called Public Health Solutions and a researcher
> with the National Development and Research
> Institutes before going to individual
> researchers.
>
> So?
>
> You are aware that this FOX story is very likely
> ignoring the actual health aspects the study was
> intended to establish in the first place, are you
> not? FOX is extremely famous for rearranging and
> constructing stories only loosely based, if at
> all, on one or two facts which are then taken
> entirely out of context in order to push whatever
> propaganda they are engaged in. That's how
> propaganda works and FOX is the best at it there
> is out there.
>
> Not knowing the real specifics of this research,
> it is irresponsible to pick out one tiny fact that
> the study may have come across in its process and
> focus on it as if it was the whole purpose of the
> study to begin with.


Correction. It should be par 3 instead of 4.

The study reported, among its findings, that gay men with "below average penises" were more likely to assume a "bottom" sexual position, while those with "above average penises" were more likely to assume a "top" sexual position. Those with average penises identified themselves as "versatile" in the bedroom.

That's crazy and unbelievable research funding, Pondy.
Re: Unbelievable and Crazy Federal Funding/Grant Research from $899,769 to $9.4 million
July 20, 2011 11:37PM
"The study reported, among its findings, that gay men with "below average penises" were more likely to assume a "bottom" sexual position, while those with "above average penises" were more likely to assume a "top" sexual position. Those with average penises identified themselves as "versatile" in the bedroom."

So it's your contention, based on what FOX tells you, that that particular piece of information was the entire and sole purpose of the whole study? Seriously?

You are exactly the type of gullible rube that FOX depends on for its ratings. It's entirely likely that that piece of info was one or two sentences relating something discovered during the course of the study amongst reams of documentation and analysis that actually dealt with the real purpose. FOX ignores all that kind of superfluous information since it would detract from the message they are trying to propagate with their bald-faced lies and distortions.

You should be getting upset with FOX news for deceiving you. And a little with yourself for falling for it.

FOX is an entertainment channel disguised as a news organization. Did you know that FOX won a court case in which it was found that they are under no obligation whatsoever to tell the truth in their "reporting"? They wouldn't be in business any longer if they were.

Re: Unbelievable and Crazy Federal Funding/Grant Research from $899,769 to $9.4 million
July 21, 2011 12:03AM
Conservatives Blaming Obama For Penis Size Study Approved Under Bush

If you had to ask what the most important expense for the government, what would it be? Well, for the Republicans in 2006, it was studying the link between the size of a gay man’s penis and sexual health. That is correct, back when the Republicans held the White House and held Congress, the grant for the 2009 study entitled “The Association Between Penis Size and Sexual Health Among Men Who Have Sex With Men.” What can we say, apparently this was a vital study that needed to be done for the closet cases in the GOP.

The study was backed by the National Institutes of Health, and it is coming under scrutiny now because the Republicans and their lords and masters over at News Corp can blame it on President Barack Obama. [...]

There is no word on just how much money went into the study. It was part of a $899,769 grant approved in 2006 before the Democrats took over in 2007. FOX News noted “The grant was administered by NIH’s National Institute on Drug Abuse, and went first to a group called Public Health Solutions and a researcher with the National Development and Research Institutes before going to individual researchers.” [...]

One of the researchers involved in the report did say that the NIH funding was used only to help analyze and write up the data that had been collected without the use of NIH funds.

According to Jeffrey Parsons, a professor with Hunter College, “The data were not collected using taxpayer funds. NIH funds were not used to measure anyone’s penis size.”

Rest at [lezgetreal.com]

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"When they say there’s not enough money, they mean there’s not enough money for YOU." - Jill Stein, Green Party presidential nominee.
Sam
Re: Unbelievable and Crazy Federal Funding/Grant Research from $899,769 to $9.4 million
July 21, 2011 12:33AM
But you left the most important part out! At least we should know the results of the studies we are funding!

"The study found that men with below average penis sizes tend to bottom, those with above average penis sizes tend to top, and those with average size tend to be versatile. Of course, you have to enjoy the patriarchal obsession with penis size. Is someone going to study whether or not the size of a lesbian’s clitoris determines her position within the relationship/sexual dynamic?" and "The study found that men with larger penises were more likely to contract certain sexually transmitted diseases. It also found that men with above-average penises enjoyed more satisfaction with their lifestyle."

I wonder how much money we could save/generate if we put all studies on hold for awhile. Better yet, let us taxpayers decide what to study. Put issues on the ballot, not just people!
Re: Unbelievable and Crazy Federal Funding/Grant Research from $899,769 to $9.4 million
July 21, 2011 12:53AM
Put issues on the ballot, not just people!

We do that in California in the form of ballot propositions. What often happens is that special interest groups, e.g. corporations, churches, spend millions on TV and radio ads misinforming the public about the proposition, and the citizenry ends up voting against their own interests or against the interests of the demographic affected by the proposition.
Re: Unbelievable and Crazy Federal Funding/Grant Research from $899,769 to $9.4 million
July 21, 2011 04:03PM
See what I mean, Believer? Even I missed those dates. (Thanks, hon!)

They not only were misrepresenting and distorting the information, but they were trying to blame something done under the Bush administration and the GOP on Obama and the Democrats.

See how FOX is nothing but a propaganda arm of the Republican party in this country?



I think you learned something here today, Believer. thumbs up

Jun
Re: Unbelievable and Crazy Federal Funding/Grant Research from $899,769 to $9.4 million
July 21, 2011 05:55PM
Personally, I'd prefer meaningful research to be funded. But blaming Obama is stupid; and especially since it was funded under GOP's watch (NOT Obama's) as Pondy has pointed out.

Its also interesting how "big" it is in the western/westernized world with other people's penis size (even with the aggressive-thick-hairy-macho "REAL MEN" ).

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Jun Wrote:
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> Personally, I'd prefer meaningful research to be
> funded. But blaming Obama is stupid; and
> especially since it was funded under GOP's watch
> (NOT Obama's) as Pondy has pointed out.


Exactly, Jun. Something beneficial to the American people and to the whole world.



> Its also interesting how "big" it is in the
> western/westernized world with other people's
> penis size (even with the
> aggressive-thick-hairy-macho "REAL MEN" ).


It is all crazy stuff Jun because we departed from the true and living God.
Ponderer Wrote:
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> See what I mean, Believer? Even I missed those
> dates. (Thanks, hon!)
>
> They not only were misrepresenting and distorting
> the information, but they were trying to blame
> something done under the Bush administration and
> the GOP on Obama and the Democrats.


I conjecture that foxnews are more reliable sources of news than any other news media.



> See how FOX is nothing but a propaganda arm of the
> Republican party in this country?


You are mistaken. They are presenting the facts and it is up to the people to think it twice.


>
> I think you learned something here today,
> Believer. thumbs up


Yes. People are still hardening their hearts not to come to Christ.
Re: Unbelievable and Crazy Federal Funding/Grant Research from $899,769 to $9.4 million
July 21, 2011 06:54PM
Believer - Did Fox News mention that the grant happened during Bush and that Obama had nothing to do with it? Did they mention that according to Jeffrey Parsons, a professor with Hunter College, “The data were not collected using taxpayer funds. NIH funds were not used to measure anyone’s penis size.” ?
Re: Unbelievable and Crazy Federal Funding/Grant Research from $899,769 to $9.4 million
July 21, 2011 07:06PM
"I conjecture that foxnews are more reliable sources of news than any other news media." -Believer

"You are mistaken. They are presenting the facts and it is up to the people to think it twice." -Believer


There is no greater evidence in this forum of your refusal to acknowledge blatant facts and your eagerness to happily devour bullshit as those two statements above.

They are presenting cleverly chosen facts presented in ways to purposefully induce people to think and conclude a specific way. A truly "fair and balanced" approach to news would never do that. And it's in every last thing they broadcast. FOX "news" has been caught so many times telling bald-faced lies that the list is nearly endless.

But never mind about facts and reality. For someone like you who is happy to ignore facts, I guess FOX really is right up your alley.





Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 07/21/2011 07:19PM by Ponderer.
PowerToThePeople Wrote:
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> Believer - Did Fox News mention that the grant
> happened during Bush and that Obama had nothing to
> do with it? Did they mention that according to
> Jeffrey Parsons, a professor with Hunter College,
> “The data were not collected using taxpayer
> funds. NIH funds were not used to measure
> anyone’s penis size.” ?


I encourage you to contact the writer of that article and address your concerns.

I just take that article as it was written. Plain and simple. In my opnion, regardless of party affiliations either Democrats or Republicans; the research funding is crazy and unbelievable and it does not add-up to the well being of the American people.

Common, do the researhed on penis sizes!!!

"IT IS A SHAME TO US AND THE WHOLE WORLD KNOWS THAT WE ARE STUPID AND CRAZY PEOPLE."


May God help us to return to the Creator God, to use our talents the way that God wants us to be....not this silly, and crazy researched work.



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 07/21/2011 07:25PM by Believer.
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