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Please Do Not Look Downward to Gays and Lesbians

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Anonymous User
Please Do Not Look Downward to Gays and Lesbians
July 27, 2010 06:48PM
You remember, we are all sinners and fall short the glory of God (Romans 3:23). It means no exception. The ratio is 1:1 or 100:100.

Gays and lesbians that are going to church, attending the church services, hear God's word and they are against same sex marriage; this tells us that these are new creations. It means- they have encountered the true and living God - Jesus Christ. They are the born again Christians. They realized that what they have in their past life is wrong and against God. God gave them new hearts and they are now followers of Christ.

We are prone to downgrade to these people and we normally think that we are better than they are; No - we are in the same plane that God can see us. Please do not look downward to these people. God loves them. Once - they met Christ; God changed their lifestyles. They are now the children of God. Who knows that these gays and lesbians who turned to Christ will be used by God to tell His word to the gays and lesbians communities who do not know the Lord Jesus Christ? You just do not know when God will do the work.

By the grace of God - He saved us. No matter what sinful lifestyles we do if we commit ourselves to God and follow Him; God will give us new hearts. A heart that is humble. A heart that will yield God's way. A heart of obedience to the word of God and a heart to tell the truth about the Lord to other people.

Here is the key: Gays and lesbians that are against same sex marriage is they are against their previous sinful lifestyles.. It means there is a change of life from darkness to light, from death to life and from Satan to God. God sent His Son that people will come to know Him. Once – a person will come to know Jesus Christ - a life of that person will be changed.

Christianity is a change from the old life to the ways of God.

God bless.
Re: Please Do Not Look Downward to Gays and Lesbians
July 27, 2010 07:39PM
Here is the key: Gays and lesbians that are against same sex marriage is they are against their previous sinful lifestyles. - Believer

That might be true for some, but not all. Some, I'm sure, continue to live the same lifestyle, but just don't believe in same-sex marriage.
Anonymous User
Re: Please Do Not Look Downward to Gays and Lesbians
July 27, 2010 08:03PM
PTTP,

You wrote, "That might be true for some, but not all. Some, I'm sure, continue to live the same lifestyle, but just don't believe in same-sex marriage.

Yes - I agree. Notice - there is a change in belief, so there is a possiblity that God is working in their hearts. It may not take an overnight change of lifestyles but God's way will do the work for them.

God bless.
Sam
Re: Please Do Not Look Downward to Gays and Lesbians
July 27, 2010 08:16PM
For those who think homosexuals should be celibate, do you think aversion therapies should be employed if the person cannot help but express his or her orientations behaviorally? [www.lds-mormon.com] If not, then what are these poor folk to do to get into heaven, f*ckrepentf*ckrepent? Will that work? Yikes, you religious nuts maybe need to go hook up your genitals to something and get shocked when you read your stupid holy books...sick.
Re: Please Do Not Look Downward to Gays and Lesbians
July 27, 2010 08:27PM
One of my cousins is pretty homophobic. I remember he was talking in detail about those gay cure programs or whatever the mormons are throwing about. I just said "Well you've certainly done your research into gay cures." LoL All the homophobes are really just self loathing. Larry Craig, that focus on the family guy caught with a male escort, we're all familiar with the type, they're likely to be a republican.

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pb
Re: Please Do Not Look Downward to Gays and Lesbians
July 27, 2010 08:37PM
Sam Wrote:
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> For those who think homosexuals should be
> celibate, do you think aversion therapies should
> be employed if the person cannot help but express
> his or her orientations behaviorally? If not,
> then what are these poor folk to do to get into
> heaven, f*ckrepentf*ckrepent? Will that work?
> Yikes, you religious nuts maybe need to go hook up
> your genitals to something and get shocked when
> you read your stupid holy books...sick.

sam,

What about pedaphiles?

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All the homophobes are really just self loathing. -- time bubba

You know them all well enough to reach that conclusion? You hang out with a lot of really weird people!

Oh, you're just suffering from the pc delusion of omniscience. Sorry.
Jun
Re: Please Do Not Look Downward to Gays and Lesbians
July 27, 2010 08:43PM
In what way is consensual homosexual sex comparable with pedophile-abuse of a child?

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Sam
Re: Please Do Not Look Downward to Gays and Lesbians
July 27, 2010 08:48PM
Yes, peebs, people like many of your brethren, if they are pedaphiles, should be hooked up and lay on the button...
pb
Re: Please Do Not Look Downward to Gays and Lesbians
July 27, 2010 09:06PM
Jun Wrote:
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> In what way is consensual homosexual sex
> comparable with pedophile-abuse of a child?

In no way that I can think of.
Anonymous User
Re: Please Do Not Look Downward to Gays and Lesbians
July 28, 2010 04:40AM
Then why bring it into a discussion about same sex attraction?
Anonymous User
Re: Please Do Not Look Downward to Gays and Lesbians
July 28, 2010 09:13AM
Jun Wrote:
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> In what way is consensual homosexual sex
> comparable with pedophile-abuse of a child?


It isn't. But pb threw it in there anyway, because he's good at choosing the grenade everyone will thoughtlessly jump on. He did it to derail any semblance of constructive reasoned discussion that might have emerged.

And it worked. That's pretty much all this thread is going to be about now. Pb works his magic again.
Anonymous User
Re: Please Do Not Look Downward to Gays and Lesbians
July 28, 2010 09:44AM
Jun Wrote:
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> In what way is consensual homosexual sex
> comparable with pedophile-abuse of a child?

It isn't. But since homosexuality is justified by peopled homosexual desires, why isn't pedophilia justified by peoples pedophilic desires?
Anonymous User
Re: Please Do Not Look Downward to Gays and Lesbians
July 28, 2010 10:47AM
Homosexuals are the only folks that demand that they be allowed to continue practicing thier sins & be accepted as good & normal by the Christian Church in the ongoing practice. They don't want the repentence factor & are fighting to have God Himself change, not them. No other groups of folks are making such demands. Others may be hiding among the brethren but they're merely chaff that is silent. There are at the very least in the fellowship I attend, a few that I do not trust because of past experience that has diminished trust in them. However, they aren't demanding to be elevated to being looked up to as representatives of virtuous living like homosexuals are. Homosexuals want more than being seen as sinners saved by the grace of God. They want to be set above others demanding they be granted, by God Himself, the allowance to continue thier practices & have it be to Gods glory.
-cic-



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 07/28/2010 10:51AM by Commander In Cheap.
Re: Please Do Not Look Downward to Gays and Lesbians
July 28, 2010 10:54AM
Winston Wrote:
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> Jun Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > In what way is consensual homosexual sex
> > comparable with pedophile-abuse of a child?
>
>
> It isn't. But pb threw it in there anyway, because
> he's good at choosing the grenade everyone will
> thoughtlessly jump on. He did it to derail any
> semblance of constructive reasoned discussion that
> might have emerged.
>
> And it worked. That's pretty much all this thread
> is going to be about now. Pb works his magic
> again.

That doesn't appear to be true.
Sam
Re: Please Do Not Look Downward to Gays and Lesbians
July 28, 2010 05:43PM
Perhaps peebs was just calling in his resident pedophile for reinforcement?
Anonymous User
Re: Please Do Not Look Downward to Gays and Lesbians
July 28, 2010 07:04PM
If homosexuality can be made a non issue, we'll see groups like pedophiles and zoophiles fall in behind them. You can bet that all of those groups are sitting among in the pews in ungodly churches such as United Methodist as well the Roman idolatry centers.

-cic-
Anonymous User
Re: Please Do Not Look Downward to Gays and Lesbians
July 28, 2010 07:06PM
Why use that example if the two things are totally different, G? Why not compare gay people's desire for love and companionship with that of heterosexual people's desire for love and companionship? The two are far more identical. How about comparing Christians' compulsion to pray on behalf of their god with terrorists' compulsion to torture and kill on behalf of their god?

Cheap, you assume a lot. Most gay people aren't demanding that your church accept or approve of anything. There are already plenty of churches, temples and synagogues that accept them. They just want other churches to stop interfering with their secular, civil liberties. Stop being paranoid. I don't give a flying f*ck if your god or church accepts me or not. I just want them to mind their own business and leave me the hell alone, as it should be in a nation that separates religion and government.
pb
Re: Please Do Not Look Downward to Gays and Lesbians
July 28, 2010 08:47PM
Ant Wrote:
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> Why use that example if the two things are totally
> different, G? Why not compare gay people's desire
> for love and companionship with that of
> heterosexual people's desire for love and
> companionship?

ant,

G's comment is exactly on point. According to your rationale, pedaphilia should be justified.
Jun
Re: Please Do Not Look Downward to Gays and Lesbians
July 28, 2010 09:04PM
pb Wrote:
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> Ant Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Why use that example if the two things are
> totally
> > different, G? Why not compare gay people's
> desire
> > for love and companionship with that of
> > heterosexual people's desire for love and
> > companionship?
>
> ant,
>
> G's comment is exactly on point. According to
> your rationale, pedaphilia should be justified.

In what way does that justisfy Pedaphilia Pb?

As I've earlier asked, "In what way is consensual homosexual sex comparable with pedophile-abuse of a child?"

The act of Pedophilia is unjustisfied as it is "abusive" -- Nothing to do with whether or not it is based on desire or love.

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- Juni {^á´¥^}


"Don't judge other people just because they sin differently from you!" ~ Anon

Three things you (probably) don't know about Islam
[www.youtube.com]

Welcome To Belgistan -- The New Muslim Capital Of Europe
[www.youtube.com]

pb
Re: Please Do Not Look Downward to Gays and Lesbians
July 28, 2010 09:09PM
In what way does that justisfy Pedaphilia Pb?

As I've earlier asked, "In what way is consensual homosexual sex comparable with pedophile-abuse of a child?"

The act of Pedophilia is unjustisfied as it is "abusive" -- Nothing to do with whether or not it is based on desire or love.

ho hum, wade.

The point is that if you justify homosexuality because it is rooted in the authentic love of the people who engage in it, you're arguing that love is a justification for an act. If love is a justification for anything it is justication for anything where love is involved. Now, we all know that no one really believes that love is a justification for anything--except that narcissists here think it should apply to their love--even when it doesn't apply to others' love.
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