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Who wants to go on a one-way trip to Mars?

Posted by Curt Anderson 
Re: Who wants to go on a one-way trip to Mars?
February 27, 2015 06:56AM
He's not smoking anything - he's just a judgmental ignoramus. It comes natural to him.
Re: Who wants to go on a one-way trip to Mars?
February 27, 2015 07:26AM
Hornswoggle,
You are an ignoranus (ignorant and an asshole).

Tuk,
I didn't say there is no scientific reason to go to Mars. I said there was no scientific reason to send 100 people to Mars. I might add 100 people who are apparently are laymen and not necessarily scientists (at least of the names made public that I've read about). One of the finalists, mentioned in the article I link to below, is a British transgender taxi-cab driver, for example.

Mars-one is about as scientific as an episode of "Survivor". In fact, the plan is for the expedition to be a reality show.

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Canadian Space Agency astronaut Chris Hadfield has questioned whether the controversial Mars One project will ever be completed. The mission - funded by making a reality TV show around the trip - hopes to send four volunteers on a one-way trip to the Red Planet to establish “a permanent human settlement on Mars” by 2025.

Hadfield, a seasoned space traveller who has served as commander of the International Space Station, told Medium: “I really counsel every single one of the people who is interested in Mars One, whenever they ask me about it, to start asking the hard questions now.”

“I want to know: How does a space suit on Mars work? Show me how it is pressurized, and how it is cooled. What’s the glove design? None of that stuff can be bought off the rack. It does not exist. You can’t just go to SpaceMart and buy those things.”

Here's a short list of what else Hadfield said we need to know before living on Mars:
How do you completely recycle your water?
How do you completely recycle your oxygen system?
How do you protect yourselves from radiation?
How do you not go crazy?
How do you set up the politics of the place and the command structure, so that when we get it wrong we won't all die? [www.businessinsider.com]

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Mars One has estimated that the project will cost $6 billion, tens of billions less than NASA’s cost projection for a similar mission. However, so far Mars One has raised just 0.01% of this from donations and has yet to procure a network buyer for the planned reality TV show.

Hadfield is not the first person to doubt the probability of the success of the project. Earlier this year, the Massachusetts Institute of Technology (MIT) conducted analysis of Mars One’s plans. An MIT professor then announced that although, "We're not saying, black and white, Mars One is infeasible… We do think it's not really feasible under the assumptions they've made. We're pointing to technologies that could be helpful to invest in with high priority, to move them along the feasibility path.” [www.newsweek.com]




"White power! White power!" --Demented Racist Donald Trump






Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 02/27/2015 07:32AM by Curt Anderson.
Re: Who wants to go on a one-way trip to Mars?
February 27, 2015 07:32AM
I said there was no scientific reason to send 100 people to Mars. - Curt

First of all, what credentials do you have to make such a judgment?

Secondly, they're not sending 100 people to Mars - the plan is to send 24. And they won't be all going at the same time.

You should actually read about the mission.



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 02/27/2015 07:36AM by Hornswoggle.
Re: Who wants to go on a one-way trip to Mars?
February 27, 2015 07:35AM
Don't take my word for it. Ask astronaut Chris Hadfield or the professors at MIT. It just so happens they agree with me.




"White power! White power!" --Demented Racist Donald Trump


Re: Who wants to go on a one-way trip to Mars?
February 27, 2015 07:39AM
You can always find a few people that will agree with any given stance on any subject. But I would bet you any amount of money that the scientific community overwhelmingly supports this mission.

You should read about the mission instead of making snap judgments about things you know nothing about..
Re: Who wants to go on a one-way trip to Mars?
February 27, 2015 07:41AM
The guinea pig volunteers are in itself a science experiment...

And I agree with the libs exploration is key to unlocking new knowledge of Mars. If this actually happens I'm sure there will be important knowledge gained. It is a death wish but not a meaningless one...
Re: Who wants to go on a one-way trip to Mars?
February 27, 2015 07:42AM
How do you figure it's a death wish?
Re: Who wants to go on a one-way trip to Mars?
February 27, 2015 07:43AM
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Hornswoggle
You can always find a few people that will agree with any given stance on any subject...

OK, find a few people with any scientific credibility who think Mars-one is a good idea.




"White power! White power!" --Demented Racist Donald Trump


Re: Who wants to go on a one-way trip to Mars?
February 27, 2015 07:56AM
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tuk22
The guinea pig volunteers are in itself a science experiment...


Sort of a sociological experiment, at best. It's along the lines of Jonestown, Heaven's Gate [en.wikipedia.org]) and BioSphere 2. Even if they did get to Mars, which I'd bet the house they won't, they won't have any more insights than the Mars Rover provides other than personal observations about their own stupidity, such as "OMG...I just made the worst decision of my life!"




"White power! White power!" --Demented Racist Donald Trump


Re: Who wants to go on a one-way trip to Mars?
February 27, 2015 08:01AM
It's going to be a reality show? Now I really want to sign up.

Sorry Curt - your ground drilling thing doesn't interest me. I've already seen At The Earth's Core.
Re: Who wants to go on a one-way trip to Mars?
February 27, 2015 08:02AM
Mars One Mission Advisory Board [www.mars-one.com]
Re: Who wants to go on a one-way trip to Mars?
February 27, 2015 08:19AM
You use the same people involved in Mars-One as an example of people who endorse Mars-One? Do you have anybody NOT compensated by Mars-One who thinks it's a good idea?




"White power! White power!" --Demented Racist Donald Trump


Re: Who wants to go on a one-way trip to Mars?
February 27, 2015 09:31AM
While I'm not quite as cynical about this as Curt, I agree that these volunteers probably haven't thought this through. This trip would be exciting and adventurous for the training period, the outset of the trip to Mars, and then the first ... year? ... of actually living on Mars. Most of the trip through space and most of their lives on Mars will settle down to routine. The novelty of being in space and being on a new planet will wear off. Then ... what? Scientific experiments? "Exploring" a desert landscape with zero plant or animal life? Life on Mars, to me, sounds like life on Earth, but without access to 99.9% of the activities and human interactions that are available on Earth.

PTTP,

"But I would bet you any amount of money that the scientific community overwhelmingly supports this mission."

I would take that bet against you. From what I've read, there is a pretty large split (although not necessarily 50/50) in the scientific community in the Human Vs. Robotic Space Exploration debate.
Re: Who wants to go on a one-way trip to Mars?
February 27, 2015 09:31AM
If I was terminally ill I would probably be up for it.

I can't understand anyone who would willingly kill themselves for the pleasure, and I really can't believe that their families would support them.

My guess is, if this ever comes to fruition, that 100 would drop to 0 in an instant.
Sam
Re: Who wants to go on a one-way trip to Mars?
February 27, 2015 03:37PM
They are going there to be killed? Hadn't heard that one. I just thought it was for people who want to go down in history for doing something fantastically adventuresome and potentially to help us all learn more about the universe. Doesn't seem suicidal to me just a bit sacrificial for a payoff that would be hugely personally beneficial for someone who wants to be famous forever. If they actually go and never come back they will be the first Martians known to man. I think it's cool and admire anyone with the balls to do it.
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