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The rate of attempted suicide for transgendered individuals is 47%

Posted by Ponderer 
Re: The rate of attempted suicide for transgendered individuals is 47%
August 22, 2012 08:56PM
No I'm not, Kai. whats seems pretty okay on this issue. He at least knows what a transgendered person is. Unlike CTD who hasn't a clue.

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THAT or what could be the problem is that these people are so fukked up to begin with that this is a side condition that causes this. It cannot be good if you feel you are not you every day, that IS severe mental illness.

- Whats

Hard to top that even by CTD. At least CTD can claim ignorance. Whats is just an asshole.
Re: The rate of attempted suicide for transgendered individuals is 47%
August 22, 2012 09:38PM
Pondy- I'm clear about the attempted suicide, do you have stats on the suicide rate? Just wondering. Ballpark is cool.

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Re: The rate of attempted suicide for transgendered individuals is 47%
August 22, 2012 09:43PM
Kai, although whats is grossly exaggerating by including all of "these people" in his comment, I did acknowledge that there are TG individuals who have other problems mentally. But then I may be misreading what he actually meant.

The idea that mental illness causes gender dysphoria is rather ignorant and assholish. I'll give you that. whats does have a ways to go yet in casting off his ignorance on this issue as it turns out.

Re: The rate of attempted suicide for transgendered individuals is 47%
August 22, 2012 09:46PM
Don't you think that in ANY spectrum, there are those with mental illness? To limit that to this group is really narrow thinking.

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Agreed OD.
Re: The rate of attempted suicide for transgendered individuals is 47%
August 22, 2012 09:51PM
"Pondy- I'm clear about the attempted suicide, do you have stats on the suicide rate?" -od

I don't. I would think that would be difficult to guage. Imagine if a person had lived with being gender dysphoric their whole life but had never told a soul about it. If they finally end up killing themselves because of it without leaving a detailed note explaining exactly why they did it, how would anyone ever know?

I do know that the suicide rate for those transsexuals who have transitioned is much less that those who haven't or don't. I think I recall around 4%.

Re: The rate of attempted suicide for transgendered individuals is 47%
August 22, 2012 09:51PM
"Don't you think that in ANY spectrum, there are those with mental illness? To limit that to this group is really narrow thinking." -od

I agree also.

Re: The rate of attempted suicide for transgendered individuals is 47%
August 22, 2012 09:57PM
Excuse me but 47% is INDEED all "those" people. To say someone lives with a biological condition that tears their sanity apart is rather naive and foolish to NOT think so. "K" simply doesn't know much about anything so I suppose its forgivable. TG people certainly have "mental" issues brought on by their biological ones. The same could be made about people that lose limbs and never recover.
Re: The rate of attempted suicide for transgendered individuals is 47%
August 22, 2012 10:00PM
Well that's kind of what I originally thought you were getting at, whats. Thanks.

You should learn how to speak and to be understandable Whats, without coming off like a complete asshole, even in the occasional time its unintentional on your part.
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Re: The rate of attempted suicide for transgendered individuals is 47%
September 01, 2012 07:52AM


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Re: The rate of attempted suicide for transgendered individuals is 47%
September 01, 2012 06:07PM
I certainly condemn Denmark's policy, but what on Earth made her pick that particular country to seek asylum in?

For anyone, to be made to believe that you are fundamentally flawed is traumatic to the limbic mind. I cannot imagine what it must be like to feel you are born in the wrong sex body. I have long thought that if this condition of being was completely accepted by society, then transgender people would not feel the need to have a sex change and they would certainly be healthier mentally. I have written before that I believe the very concept of mental illness is questionable, and that its existence is more of a social problem than a biological problem.
Re: The rate of attempted suicide for transgendered individuals is 47%
September 03, 2012 02:59AM
I disagree. You don't think these individuals are incapable of looking around and seeing someting is wrong with themselves without society? I would give people more credit for understanding their own plight than you do myce. I am sure you will find it a matter of both biologcal and mental. Probably one driving the other.



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 09/03/2012 03:54AM by whats@work.
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