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GOP Mischief Makers: Republicans To Give Hillary The Democratic Nomination!!!

Posted by Henry M. Paulson 
GOP Mischief Makers: Republicans To Give Hillary The Democratic Nomination!!!
February 07, 2008 09:23PM
This just isn't right.

The notion that voters might “cross over” to create mischief, that is to pick the weaker candidate for the opposing party, is not academic. The Supreme Court called it “a clear and present danger” and, in fact, a survey by the Seattle Times last September revealed that fully 10% of Washington voters admit to crossing over to make mischief.
[www.washingtonpolicy.org]


An email I got from a friend in Ohio says that since the GOP nomination has been decided, Republicans plan to cross over in droves to vote for Hillary Clinton in Democratic primaries in states where it's allowed. I predicted earlier that this would happen.

Those dastardly Republicans.

Anyone know how many primaries we're talking about here where this sort of thing is possible? In looking at this earlier in a discussion with PTTP, it seems to be possible in Texas and I suppose in Ohio, too, if my friend is correct. How about in Pennsylvania? Anyone know? Any other states?
HHH
Re: GOP Mischief Makers: Republicans To Give Hillary The Democratic Nomination!!!
February 07, 2008 09:40PM
This is Ohio's rule from the Ohio Secretary of State's website:

"How do I establish which political party’s ballot I am entitled to vote?

"You may vote the primary ballot of the political party with which you currently wish to be affiliated. If you voted the primary ballot of a different political party in 2005 or 2006, you will complete a statement at your polling place confirming the change in your political party affiliation."


As you can see, it is pretty easy to switch parties even if you recently voted in a different party's primary. Not exactly an "open" primary, but close particularly if a voter has no problem with declaring loyalty to a different party.

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Re: GOP Mischief Makers: Republicans To Give Hillary The Democratic Nomination!!!
February 07, 2008 09:40PM
In checking around, it seems that in Virginia, too, a Republican evildoer can vote in the Democratic primary and then immediately switch back to being a Republican again.

Virginia votes 2/12.
Re: GOP Mischief Makers: Republicans To Give Hillary The Democratic Nomination!!!
February 07, 2008 09:43PM
HHH Wrote:
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> This is Ohio's rule from the Ohio Secretary of
> State's website:
>
> "How do I establish which political party’s ballot
> I am entitled to vote?
>
> "You may vote the primary ballot of the political
> party with which you currently wish to be
> affiliated. If you voted the primary ballot of a
> different political party in 2005 or 2006, you
> will complete a statement at your polling place
> confirming the change in your political party
> affiliation."
>
>
> As you can see, it is pretty easy to switch
> parties even if you recently voted in a different
> party's primary. Not exactly an "open" primary,
> but close particularly if a voter has no problem
> with declaring loyalty to a different party.

So my friend is right.

This isn't good.

Back in 2000 in Michigan, didn't lots of Democrats vote for McCain in the Republican primary and give him a win over Bush?
HHH
Re: GOP Mischief Makers: Republicans To Give Hillary The Democratic Nomination!!!
February 07, 2008 09:49PM
Yes. I heard that, too, on one of the election programs. Just for your information and others here's what the Ohio change of party affiliation form voters fill out at the polling place looks like: [www.summitcountyboe.com].

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Henry,
Here is the schedule according to [en.wikipedia.org]
Alabama - Open Primary (2/5). Deadline (10 Days - 1/26).
Alaska - Caucuses (2/5). Deadline (30 Days - 1/6).
Arizona - Closed PPE (2/5). Deadline (30 Days - 1/6).
Arkansas - Open Primary (2/5). Deadline (30 Days - 1/6).
California - Primary (2/5). Deadline (15 Days - 1/22).
Colorado - Caucuses (2/5). Deadline (29 Days - 1/7). (For Democrats, the deadline to register is 12/5)
Connecticut - Closed Primary (2/5). Deadline (12 Noon, 2/4).
Delaware - Primary (2/5). Deadline (24 Days - 1/12).
District of Columbia - Primary (2/12). Deadline (30 Days - 1/13)
Florida - Primary (1/29). Deadline (29 Days - 1/1).
Georgia - Open Primary (2/5). Deadline (1/7).
Hawaii - Open Caucuses (3/2). Deadline (30 Days - 2/1).
Idaho - Open Primary (5/27). Deadline (May 2 for pre registration. Registration allowed on Election Day).
Illinois - Primary (2/5). Deadline (27 Days - 1/9).
Indiana - Open Primary (5/6). Deadline (28 Days - 4/9).
Iowa - Caucus (1/3). Deadline (10 days - 12/24/07).
Kansas - Caucuses (2/9). Deadline (15 Days - 1/25).
Kentucky - Closed Primary (5/20). Deadline for new registrations (28 Days - 4/22). Deadline for party switch (12/31/2007)
Louisiana - Caucus (2/9). Deadline (1/11).
Maine - Caucuses (February 1 through February 3). Deadline (None - Day of Election though check the rules regarding this caucus).
Maryland - Closed Primary (2/12). Deadline (21 Days - 1/22).
Massachusetts - Semi-Closed Primary (2/5). Deadline (1 Day - 1/16).
Michigan - Open Primary (1/15). Deadline (30 Days - 1/6).
Minnesota - Open Caucuses (2/5 *). Deadline (20 Days - 1/16).
Mississippi - Open Primary (3/11). Deadline (30 Days - 2/10).
Missouri - Open Primary (2/5). Deadline (4th Wednesday Prior - 1/9).
Montana - Open Primary (6/3). Deadline (30 Days - 5/4).
Nebraska - Primary (5/13 *). Deadline (Second Friday before an election, 5/2).
Nevada - Caucuses (1/19). Deadline (30 Days - 12/20/07).
New Hampshire - Semi-Open Primary (1/8). Deadline (10 Days - 12/28/07).[7]
New Jersey - Primary (2/5). Deadline for new registrations (21 Days - 1/15/08). Deadline for party switch (50 days - 12/17/07). Unaffiliated voters can declare on the day of primary.
New Mexico - Republican Primary (6/3). Deadline (28 Days - 5/6) Democrat Closed caucus 2/5/08 (deadline January 4).
New York - Closed Primary (2/5). Deadline (25 Days - 1/11).
North Carolina - Primary (5/6 *). Deadline (30 Days - 4/6).
North Dakota - Open Caucuses (2/5). Deadline (No registration. Must have residency for 30 days - 1/6).
Ohio - Semi-Open Primary (3/4). Deadline (30 Days - 2/3).
Oklahoma - Closed Primary (2/5). Deadline (24 Days - 1/12).
Oregon - Closed Primary (5/20). Deadline (21 Days - 4/29).
Pennsylvania - Primary (4/22). Deadline (30 Days - 3/23).
Rhode Island - Primary (3/4). Deadline (30 Days - 2/3).
South Carolina - Open Primary (1/19-R) (1/26-D). Deadline (30 Days - 12/20/07-R -- 12/25/07-D)).
South Dakota - Closed Primary (6/3). Deadline (15 Days - 5/19).
Tennessee - Open Primary (2/5). Deadline (30 Days - 1/6).
Texas - Semi-Open Primary (3/4) & Closed Caucus (begins 3/4, schedule based on party rules). Voting in primary is prerequisite for caucusing at precinct convention, which convenes after primary polls close. Deadline (2/4/08).
Utah - Closed Primary (2/5). Deadline (30 Days - 1/6).
Vermont - Open Primary (3/4). Deadline (2/27/08).
Virginia - Open Primary (2/12). Deadline (29 Days - 1/14).
Washington - Open Caucus (2/9) & Primary (2/19). This is a two step process. Deadline (30 Days via mail or online, 15 Days in Person Friday, 1/25).
West Virginia -Closed Primary (18 Delegates at the State Convention on 2/5 (ask the state party for details), 12 Delegates for the 5/13 Primary).
Deadline (21 days to register or change your party to Republican - 4/22 for the Primary).
Wisconsin - Open Primary (2/19). Deadline (The day before or the day of at your polling precinct).
Wyoming - Caucus (3/8).
Re: GOP Mischief Makers: Republicans To Give Hillary The Democratic Nomination!!!
February 07, 2008 10:23PM
WTH does "semi open primary" mean in Texas?

This is all very disturbing news.
Paleoliberal Wrote:
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> WTH does "semi open primary" mean in Texas?
>
> This is all very disturbing news.


It's open to voters who drive to polls in a semi.
HHH
Re: GOP Mischief Makers: Republicans To Give Hillary The Democratic Nomination!!!
February 08, 2008 02:28AM
Well, Ohio is semi-open which in our state's case is pretty close to being semi-pregnant.

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What kind of genius loses a billion dollars in a year?
Re: GOP Mischief Makers: Republicans To Give Hillary The Democratic Nomination!!!
February 08, 2008 04:21AM
Curt Anderson Wrote:
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> Paleoliberal Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > WTH does "semi open primary" mean in Texas?
> >
> > This is all very disturbing news.
>
>
> It's open to voters who drive to polls in a semi.

It seems to mean that a voter, no matter what his party preference, can vote in either party's primary. He then becomes "affiliated" with that party (the party in whose primary he votes) for the rest of the year but only for the rest of the election year. At year end, all affiliations lapse.

This doesn't appear to have any real consequence since the voter can vote for whichever nominee (Republican, Democrat, or other) he wants to in November.

It seems to work much the same way in Ohio and Virginia.
Re: GOP Mischief Makers: Republicans To Give Hillary The Democratic Nomination!!!
February 08, 2008 09:45AM
Now that the Republican nomination has been settled, I'll bet that F-You, whatsy, sam spade, and other smart Republican supporters are spreading the word through email, blogs, and word of mouth even as we speak for their brethren to vote for Hillary in the remaining open primaries.

They know that Hillary is the weaker candidate and that this is a sure-fire way for them to make her the Democratic nominee.

Congress should pass a law banning open primaries.
HHH
Re: GOP Mischief Makers: Republicans To Give Hillary The Democratic Nomination!!!
February 08, 2008 05:34PM
I know how heart-breaking this must be for you.

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Re: GOP Mischief Makers: Republicans To Give Hillary The Democratic Nomination!!!
February 08, 2008 06:00PM
It was probably the main reason that Mitt quit.
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