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A Parade of Idiocy

Posted by Ponderer 
A Parade of Idiocy
May 16, 2020 10:31PM
Heard a commotion going past our place just now. Seems that a mobile phalanx of willfully blind sociopaths decided to cruise the boulevard. Probably about 30 or 40 cars and motorcycles honking and flying American flags with signs saying FREE CALIFORNIA, ALL JOBS ARE ESSENTIAL and OPEN CALIFORNIA NOW and the like. Who knows where they were headed. Some tightly packed, mask-averse rally somewhere no doubt. I got out there with my mask on in time to give a lot of them two thumbs down as they passed. Another neighbor came out in her mask and asked me what was going on. "Moron parade", I told her and we had a good laugh.

A chain is as strong as its weakest link. And a country is as strong as its most weak-minded, most gullible citizens. Lemmings who irrationally listen to a pig-ignorant, incompetent moron of a leader and only care for themselves. The whole rest of the population be damned. Stupid people who think science is a joke and are willing to make things far worse than they ever needed to be. People who will see to it that this pandemic destroys this country. Well America is truly Number One in the world in something right now: Idiots per capita.

This country has never been so weak and far from greatness in its entire history as it is today.

Look, I know people are frustrated. They're scared and desperate. I understand that. But this is the greatest crisis to hit this country in a generation or two. This is not a time for selfishness. This is a time for sacrifice and sober caution. And as always in this country, it is those with the least to give up that are having to make the greatest sacrifices while the rich and powerful bitch their bloated, privileged asses off because they can't go to their country clubs.

Watching the rich and powerful in our "government" manipulate such people for their own Profit and benefit, goading them on to their very peril and that of their own families and fellow citizens, makes me want to puke my guts out.





Forgive them, Founding Fathers,
for they know not what they do.


Re: A Parade of Idiocy
May 16, 2020 10:38PM
I thought of you a couple of days ago. From Chad Prather (whom I know you despise) came up with the word "Covidiot" or "Covidiocracy." That is, people doing stupid sht and being idiots because of the virus.



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 05/16/2020 10:38PM by OldeDude.
Re: A Parade of Idiocy
May 16, 2020 10:41PM
Right to the projection. I expected no less of you, Olde Dude.





The real idiots.


pb
Re: A Parade of Idiocy
May 16, 2020 10:41PM
Re: A Parade of Idiocy
May 16, 2020 10:45PM
mmmmm….. pretty much like the ghettos of Warsaw....
pb
Re: A Parade of Idiocy
May 16, 2020 10:59PM
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OldeDude
mmmmm….. pretty much like the ghettos of Warsaw....

Apt.
Re: A Parade of Idiocy
May 16, 2020 11:42PM
Re: A Parade of Idiocy
May 16, 2020 11:45PM
Y'all understand that that babylon bee piece is satire, and that there are no plans to build a wall with a moat and sharks, right? I'm guessing that you only read the headline.
Re: A Parade of Idiocy
May 16, 2020 11:49PM
And I have it on good authority that the image I just posted was heavily Photoshopped.

Re: A Parade of Idiocy
May 17, 2020 12:01AM
Last week in our town, the anti-stay home, anti-mask crowd staged a protest. I could hear them but I didn't see them. A friend if mine drove past the protest and reported that some were carrying signs accusing Bill Gates of profiting from the governmental health and safety measures in response to COVID.-19. My friend was skeptical that Bill Gates needs to make more money or that he needs an epidemic to line his pockets.

BTW, our stay at home order in Oregon has never been absolute. People were encouraged to get out an exercise while observing social distances. Yesterday, our governor lifted some restrictions in some counties, including ours, that have flattened the curve. Retail shops are re-opening for "phase 1" and if all goes well, we move to stage 2 and finally stage 3. Yesterday friend and I downed a pint at our favorite brew pub where there the tables were all outside and six feet apart. The staff all wore masks.




"White power! White power!" --Demented Racist Donald Trump


Re: A Parade of Idiocy
May 17, 2020 12:10AM
Some of the efforts are reasonable, like opening up golf courses. What I'm concerned about is the erosion of some of the smart safeguards that were put in place a couple of months ago, like limiting the number of shoppers at grocery stores. Initially all the chains were only allowing 50 shoppers in at a time. Now, only Smart & Final is doing that. I work in grocery stores, and I feel less safe now. I think what we're going to see in places that are opening up is that the number of covid19 cases is going to shoot up again. Frankly I don't fully trust my own governor, who I praised before.
Re: A Parade of Idiocy
May 17, 2020 12:11AM
Being in Los Angeles county here in LB, all the places we've gotten takeout from have been delivery or to-go only. But people in California approve of the governor's handling of this crisis and with the shut-down measures in place during this still new "gradual opening". 82% approving. And mayors and county officials are monitoring and tailoring their responses according to need in their jurisdictions. Kind of a democratic setup of sorts.

pb
Re: A Parade of Idiocy
May 17, 2020 12:12AM
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Donna
Y'all understand that that babylon bee piece is satire, and that there are no plans to build a wall with a moat and sharks, right? I'm guessing that you only read the headline.

I do. I knew that was absurd but suggestive of a larger reality.
Re: A Parade of Idiocy
May 17, 2020 12:14AM
And what pray tell do you see as the "larger reality"?
Re: A Parade of Idiocy
May 17, 2020 12:15AM
For comedy to be funny, it has to be based on truth.

That's why it's not funny, pb.

Re: A Parade of Idiocy
May 17, 2020 12:18AM
Nothing worse than bad satire. That's what it was.

Re: A Parade of Idiocy
May 17, 2020 12:21AM
Yeah, I was being generous when I called it satire. Obviously it's not true that such a wall is being built. But what's the author saying? Implying? What point is the author trying to make?
Re: A Parade of Idiocy
May 17, 2020 12:35AM
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Ponderer
Nothing worse than bad satire. That's what it was.

Conservatives don't do satire. Satire requires a foundation of truth which is the premise that sets up the satire. To be fair, it is difficult for any comedian to do political satire no matter their politics. Trump is so preposterous and ridiculous that comedians are having hard time satirizing him. Pre-Trump's presidency, a satirical bit might have had a president suggesting injecting disinfectant to cure coronavirus. Trump though is beyond parody.

My current must watch TV now includes Seth Meyer's Closer Look: [www.youtube.com] Most of Meyer's skit is just Trump making laughably obvious lies and contradicting himself.




"White power! White power!" --Demented Racist Donald Trump


pb
Re: A Parade of Idiocy
May 17, 2020 12:37AM
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Donna
And what pray tell do you see as the "larger reality"?

The convention wisdom, among many, that your governor is a bit of a fascist.

It's absurd humor by hyperbole
pb
Re: A Parade of Idiocy
May 17, 2020 12:39AM
There's nothing more fascinating as a gaggle of humorless progressives.
Re: A Parade of Idiocy
May 17, 2020 12:56AM
Conservatives need to let US do the humor. The whole moat thing would only be funny if Newsom were trying to keep people in California, which of course he isn't. In fact as a frontline worker, I'm grateful that he was the first governor to issue a stay at home order. It probably saved the lives of thousands of people.

Given that your mom contracted COVID-19 and died, I would have thought that you'd be particularly sensitive to the threat to our lives that COVID-19 presents.
pb
Re: A Parade of Idiocy
May 17, 2020 01:12AM
Donna,

I am, of course, aware of the plague of COVID-19 and of the horrible toll it's taken. But, I also know that well over half of the COVID-19 deaths in Pennsylvania are among residents of nursing and personal care homes.

Evie and I are abiding by the stay at home order here scrupulously. But, I'm also sympathetic to people who want to live their lives with appropriate caution.
Re: A Parade of Idiocy
May 17, 2020 12:56PM
Pondy- "Right to the projection. I expected no less of you, Olde Dude."
And you just HAD to respond. I expect no less of you (low bar though). And he's conservative, so it's true.

"And mayors and county officials are monitoring and tailoring their responses according to need in their jurisdictions. Kind of a democratic setup of sorts."
That's a good example "Federalism." Allowing lower governments to self govern. It's used so those areas that are not affected can self govern without hindrances from big brother. Also used for floods, wild fires, hurricanes, etcetcetc.

Lead- "Evie and I are abiding by the stay at home order here scrupulously. But, I'm also sympathetic to people who want to live their lives with appropriate caution."
Ditto, no exceptions. I even got an Rx for N95 masks. You might want to have your wife ask her doc. I've only used 1 of 10, but I put it in to the sun for 1 full day, then turn it over and leave it out for one more if I use it. Then again, since this started, I've been off my land 3 times so not too much of an issue. I'll continue to use the masks until I am comfortable, not by dictate from the government or others.



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 05/17/2020 03:33PM by OldeDude.
pb
Re: A Parade of Idiocy
May 17, 2020 01:31PM
Good idea, OD, thanks. She has a double surgery coming up in about a month...two operations during one time under anesthesia.

Her immune system will be seriously compromised...maybe forever.
Re: A Parade of Idiocy
May 17, 2020 03:44PM
Again, Godspeed. Sounds like you've had a "spring." Good thoughts your way as always.
Mine is bad enough that I have an appointment during shutdown for biopsies. I do appreciate the doctor's concern though, and her willingness to try to get this under "control" (whatever that means to either of us).
Re: A Parade of Idiocy
May 17, 2020 06:01PM
Here's some more idiocy: [globalnews.ca]

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"Build yourselves a wall of ships!" said the Oracle!
Re: A Parade of Idiocy
May 17, 2020 06:16PM
"The convention wisdom, among many, that your governor is a bit of a fascist." -pb

Find another convention. That one's full of deluded, Fox-loving, bullshit swallowers.

82% of Californians approve of Governor Newsome's handling of the Corona-19 crisis and continuing the shut down for as long as it takes to get this thing under control.


"There's nothing more fascinating as a gaggle of humorless progressives." -pb

As you are with reality, you are in no position to be commenting on anyone's sense of humor.


"That's a good example "Federalism." Allowing lower governments to self govern." -Olde Dude

And that's great! There's nothing wrong with that. In most cases, but not all.

We don't let individual states declare and go to war with other countries because of Federalism. We don't force individual states to deal with immense natural disasters all by themselves. Federalism, like socialism and capitalism and all other forms of government and economy, is fine in cases where such an approach is appropriate and produce the best results for the people and the country. A giant national crisis like this pandemic however is not a case for 50 individual states to be doing whatever the hell their possibly misguided, misinformed leaders want to do willy-nilly. Pretty much every other country on the planet has taught us that lesson in spades in the last couple months. But we still haven't learned it yet. Just because some states have governors or state governments that are happy with simply letting whoever is going to die from this in their states to hurry up and die already doesn't mean that the rest of the country and the federal government should be helpless and have to stand back and watch them kill their own constituencies and spread this thing further.

Re: A Parade of Idiocy
May 17, 2020 06:57PM
A thought for you, od. If you have several masks, wear one and ut it in the garage or somewhere for a week. A fresh one every day. That is what mi daughter and her husband do.
Re: A Parade of Idiocy
May 17, 2020 06:57PM
Let me ask you, Olde Dude. If a gigantic hurricane happens in Texas, let's say, and the governor there decides to deal with 50,000 suddenly homeless and destitute citizens by rounding them all up and locking them into fenced pens with no protection from the elements and feeds them each a saltine cracker and 3 ounces of water per day, should the federal government be helpless to come to the aid of those hapless people until their sadistic governor requests it?

Re: A Parade of Idiocy
May 17, 2020 07:20PM
Texas COVID-19 cases rise, governor's office says more testing being done

Texas has seen a steady rise in novel coronavirus cases and fatalities since reopening just over two weeks ago.

There are now 45,198 confirmed cases of COVID-19, the illness caused by the virus, according to the Texas Department of State Health Services. That is an increase of 1,347 cases from Thursday to Friday. The new numbers have not yet been recorded for Saturday.

Last Friday, the daily case increase was 1,219.

While the cases are still well below New York, the state with the most confirmed cases at more than 345,000, the steady increase shows that the curve has not yet flattened in Texas.

The state also experienced its highest and second-highest daily death toll just a day apart. On Thursday, 58 deaths were recorded in 24 hours and Friday that number dropped only slightly to 56, according to the health department. The total number of fatalities is at 1,272.

Last Friday, the daily death toll was 31.

Re: A Parade of Idiocy
May 17, 2020 08:08PM
Same difference.




pb
Re: A Parade of Idiocy
May 17, 2020 08:35PM
Not exactly.
Re: A Parade of Idiocy
May 17, 2020 08:43PM
What's with the straws (in the babylon article)? People are still upset over that one? Personally, I never used a straw before there was a movement to get rid of them. But I can tell you from my connections to the restaurant industry they just switched to paper straws and made a killing.
Re: A Parade of Idiocy
May 17, 2020 09:26PM
Paper straws are more expensive than plastic ones.
Re: A Parade of Idiocy
May 17, 2020 10:39PM
"Not exactly." -pb

How not? In both instances the person wants to exercise their "rights" regardless of how it will harm others around them. Both are acting equally as sociopathically harmful to their community.

Re: A Parade of Idiocy
May 17, 2020 11:19PM
Pondy- "And that's great! There's nothing wrong with that. In most cases, but not all."
I'm just going to answer this one, because the others are just to inane.

First, I think it does slow down the processes "at times."1

In this case (COVID 19), I think the governors were hoodwinked by the WHO and China. This caused many of them not to take the threat seriously (yea for 20/20 hindsight!). Newsome and Cuomo didn't really care, and closed down as early as possible, filing the right paperwork, calling the right people with an "idea" of what they thought they needed. Colorado (penis), and MI (Whitman) are novices at it, so they pretty much have a goat fuk going on. Governors, like every other politician are required to follow their constitution and the laws of the US. And they want to be re-elected, so there's that.

Secondly, that's what the law and the Constitution say regardless if you agree or not. There is an established protocol for states receiving emergency money. My point is that Newsome and Cuomo understand it and started the protocol early. That was good.

No stalags or gulags allowed. The feds can go after that under the Constitution.

There were a couple of states (PA, and MI I'm pretty sure) who's legislature brought lawsuits citing state law (against Executive Orders after the state legislature voted down the governors' requests). In that case, these can only be seen by state courts (meaning no federal district, or SCOTUS). The President (all of them, not just the one's I can "mostly" agree with) can step in if it violates federal law or the US Constitution. That's why the two legislatures went to STATE courts for their injunctions.

1 Katrina is the best example of that. It took the LA Governor (Blanco) and NOLA Mayor (Nagin) way too long to call it. If you notice, governors in the same situation now, ask for federal relief BEFORE the storms hit. That was a "lesson learned" for the governors.
Re: A Parade of Idiocy
May 17, 2020 11:28PM
"Federalism, like socialism and capitalism and all other forms of government and economy, is fine in cases where such an approach is appropriate and produce the best results for the people and the country."

Federalism is a political system.
Capitalism and Socialism are economy theory.
Two different things.

Federalism is part of our Republic, multi-layering of accountability and control. Different than other countries, our enumerated powers belong to the federal government, not the states.

And like I said above, sometimes it's slower, but it's our system by constitution and law.
Re: A Parade of Idiocy
May 18, 2020 02:14AM
"Federalism is a political system.
Capitalism and Socialism are economy theory.
Two different things."
-Olde Dude

"Federalism, like socialism and capitalism and all other forms of government and economy," -Ponderer

I knew for an absolute fact that no matter how clear I was in purposefully separating those separate issues in that sentence as I was writing it, I wasn't going to be able to pull it of without you idiotically and obfuscationally suggesting that I was saying they were the same thing. I knew that your genetic reflex to obfuscate was just going to be too strong for you to let such an opportunity to avoid the point pass by.


"In this case (COVID 19), I think the governors were hoodwinked by the WHO and China." -Olde Dude

Flaming, blithering nonsense. Blue state governors were not "hoodwinked" by the World Health Organization or China. We still had a fairly functional Center for Disease Control back at the start of things that states were listening to. They weren't hoodwinked by anyone, especially the Mango Monarch who was trying to blow the whole thing off as going away before you know it. States and their leaders were already scrambling to find PPE and ventilators to deal with what they knew for a fact was going to be a catastrophe weeks before OAF was still out there declaring how there were only 15 cases and soon there would be none.

Face it already. Your orange guy reacted like a total pig-ignorant moron to this disaster from the very start and we are all suffering from the horrific consequences that will see to it that this thing lasts far longer and will kill far more Americans than it had any reason to.


"I'm just going to answer this one, because the others are just to inane." -Olde Dude

Really?

"A giant national crisis like this pandemic however is not a case for 50 individual states to be doing whatever the hell their possibly misguided, misinformed leaders want to do willy-nilly."

That's "inane"? Our precious Federalist system is so sacred and immutable that the lives of the citizens of this country must be sacrificed on the altar of necessary delay in acting because of strict and holy adherence to its dogma? That sounds pretty inane to me.

"Pretty much every other country on the planet has taught us that lesson in spades in the last couple months."

I'll agree on that one. It is inane that our president has made it necessary to take lessons from every other country because he doesn't know what the hell he's doing and has purged anyone from the administration or our national health organizations who did know anything about these things.

"But we still haven't learned it yet."

Again, because of our obstinately inane president's self centered lack of sane leadership.

"Just because some states have governors or state governments that are happy with simply letting whoever is going to die from this in their states to hurry up and die already doesn't mean that the rest of the country and the federal government should be helpless and have to stand back and watch them kill their own constituencies and spread this thing further."

But I guess I'm wrong. Living in a Federalist country does mean that the rest of the country and the federal government does have to sit back and watch avoidable catastrophe befall a state because of its inane leadership. I guess it's inane to suggest otherwise.

eye rolling smiley

Re: A Parade of Idiocy
May 18, 2020 02:32AM
I was actually take this point by point, but you're just too TDS to be rational.
Re: A Parade of Idiocy
May 18, 2020 02:51AM
I think it's deranged to still be supporting Trump.
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