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My doctor wants M4A

Posted by Indy! 
Re: My doctor wants M4A
November 12, 2019 03:12AM
I want the Bernie Sanders M4A plan - I've been perfectly clear about that. But if there were a 70/30 plan that meant private insurers were put out of business and the government subsidized people according to income? Yes, I could live with that. Neither one of you have ever offered any plan on this board that did NOT include private insurers as far as I know - so we are not in agreement imho.

But if you want to call that a win? I'm perfectly fine with that. smoking smiley
Re: My doctor wants M4A
November 12, 2019 03:16AM
Indy is fractured. I think he took the red pill.

He knows Trump is spot on with foreign policy but will never admit it. Once he understands that communism is evil...
Re: My doctor wants M4A
November 12, 2019 03:17AM
30% cost sharing is high. People will demand supplement policies.
Re: My doctor wants M4A
November 12, 2019 06:05AM
Trump is "spot on" with foreign policy? Yeah... no.
Re: My doctor wants M4A
November 17, 2019 09:33PM
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A Facebook friend who lives in Canada
In Canada, all basic and most advanced procedures are covered and as Donna refers to above, everyone who is classified as needing it gets way more extended coverage. Most private extra insurance is offered as an employment benefit and like in the USA is beyond affordability for most who might have to arrange their own coverage.ince of Saskatchewan but the provincial version of those socialists. They endured a long doctor's strike to force it through so the federal plan met less but still ferocious opposition from doctors.

All basic and most advanced procedures are covered and as Donna refers to above, everyone who is classified as needing it gets way more extended coverage. Most private extra insurance is offered as an employment benefit and like in the USA is beyond affordability for most who might have to arrange their own coverage.

That extra coverage is always the subject of political debate here, with progressives wanting to add more to the public plan and the neo-cons wanting to destroy the public plan altogether.

Yes, there are waiting times for some non-urgent things like knee replacements, but part of that problem is because we all can afford to get into the queue here while in the USA many just never bother for fear of bankruptcy.

MY personal story: in 2006 I fell and broke my arm. It was fixed involving three nights in the hospital and surgery. The only hint of mentioning, money was the hospital asking for my group (private employer) insurance number to cover a semi-private room, which is two beds instead of four in a room.

The doctor decided I should have an upper humerus replacement as the shoulder had been damaged in the fall. For his own reasons, he expedited the surgery and it was done 4 weeks later, altogether two months after my fall. That involved the operation and six nights in the hospital. Money was never mentioned in the whole thing and I had a lot of followup visits to his office after.

I think, in the USA the first part would have bankrupted me.

For all that, most of us are willing to wait in line for less urgent care. We could use more doctors, but we should look to the Cuban model, not the Usayan for clues in how to fix that.


Still, it's all an ongoing fight to hold our version of the neo-liberal Republicrats at bay.
Re: My doctor wants M4A
November 17, 2019 10:39PM
My oldest client (20+ years) is a Republican. He's pro-Trump in the most wingnutty way you can imagine. He's the guy who's friends with Roger Stone and thought he was too smart to go to jail (wrong smiling smiley ). Anyway - he also lived in Canada for years before moving down here. He's pro-R on virtually every issue except one... medicare for all. He said living in Canada was a dream compared to what we have in America when it came to healthcare. He says "wait times" are very similar - you wait more for non-emergency stuff in Canada, but you wait for EVERYTHING here in the USA. He said there is no comparison for him - he'd take Canada's system all day long.
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