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This isn't complicated. 2020 is a referendum on Trump.

The job of the Biden campaign is simple, and Trump is helping.
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My doctor wants M4A

Posted by Indy! 
Re: My doctor wants M4A
November 10, 2019 11:36PM
Curt already has medicare so he’s good with any crappy system the rest of us are forced to use.

Tuk is one the vipers murdering poor Americans with his sh1tty health “insurance” plans, so crappy for him = more profits.

Very simple.

PS: I’m sure everybody already noticed but I’ll say it anyway- Tuk called me a liar and AS ALWAYS when someone calls me a liar on this board... he couldn’t back it. You’re still my bitch, Tuk. Some things never change. smoking smiley
Re: My doctor wants M4A
November 11, 2019 01:44AM
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Re: My doctor wants M4A
November 11, 2019 02:15AM
Indy,

You’re too stupid to know when you’re wrong. Gloat in your ignorance fool
Re: My doctor wants M4A
November 11, 2019 05:34AM
No source? Then it never happened, BITCH. No wonder your wife is always sleeping with other men.
Re: My doctor wants M4A
November 11, 2019 05:45AM
Hey dipshit...

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) or he had a plan of his own - gov't pays 70% and patients pay 30% (which would be fine by me too

Why you suck so much balls... I’ve argued the exact same thing for literally years here on this board, but now you just happen to be ok with a system just like our current Medicare but with higher cost sharing? Go fuk yourself clown. Did you come to this realization with his finger up your ass?
Re: My doctor wants M4A
November 11, 2019 10:24AM
Source it whenever you’re ready, bitch.
Re: My doctor wants M4A
November 11, 2019 10:03PM
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Tuk - I think the fair solution would be to find a way to keep access while lowering costs. To do that, we really just need sensible solutions like expanding financial assistance, coming up with a single payer system similar to Medicare, but with higher cost share....

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Indy - Same old tired discredited arguments of the medical, pharmaceutical and insurance industry.

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I also like how you made me source all the years of you being a lying pompous ass whenever we argue healthcare.

Medicare is an 80/20 coinsurance
Your doctor says 70/30 coinsurance

I’ve literally have stated, for years and years here at SS, that I support a Medicare system with higher cost sharing. You have been an absolute pest for years and years trying to make counter arguments on something you had very little knowledge on.

Then just out of the blue...

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or he had a plan of his own - gov't pays 70% and patients pay 30% (which would be fine by me too

You’re such a fuking troll.
Re: My doctor wants M4A
November 12, 2019 02:00AM
That's rich. You pulled ONE line out of a post that had 17 paragraphs and act like my answer was specifically directed at THAT? You're a con artist by trade, Tuk. The only reason you're mad at me and keep knocking yourself out trying to find some "lie" or something I got wrong in the 10 years or so we've been posting on this board is because I call you and your con game out and expose the lies to everyone else who can't figure it out on their own. Sorry - that lame ass post doesn't change anything...

You're still my b!tch, b!tch.
Re: My doctor wants M4A
November 12, 2019 02:22AM
So just to confirm you’re now perfectly fine with a Medicare system for everyone pre-65 at a 70/30 cost share?
Re: My doctor wants M4A
November 12, 2019 02:26AM
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tuk22
So just to confirm you’re now perfectly fine with a Medicare system for everyone pre-65 at a 70/30 cost share?

I don't think he will. Indy is the Mick Mulvaney of SelectSmart.com and vehemently denies saying what he already said. I know, because I already brought it up. [www.selectsmart.com]




"White power! White power!" --Demented Racist Donald Trump


Re: My doctor wants M4A
November 12, 2019 03:12AM
I want the Bernie Sanders M4A plan - I've been perfectly clear about that. But if there were a 70/30 plan that meant private insurers were put out of business and the government subsidized people according to income? Yes, I could live with that. Neither one of you have ever offered any plan on this board that did NOT include private insurers as far as I know - so we are not in agreement imho.

But if you want to call that a win? I'm perfectly fine with that. smoking smiley
Re: My doctor wants M4A
November 12, 2019 03:16AM
Indy is fractured. I think he took the red pill.

He knows Trump is spot on with foreign policy but will never admit it. Once he understands that communism is evil...
Re: My doctor wants M4A
November 12, 2019 03:17AM
30% cost sharing is high. People will demand supplement policies.
Re: My doctor wants M4A
November 12, 2019 06:05AM
Trump is "spot on" with foreign policy? Yeah... no.
Re: My doctor wants M4A
November 17, 2019 09:33PM
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A Facebook friend who lives in Canada
In Canada, all basic and most advanced procedures are covered and as Donna refers to above, everyone who is classified as needing it gets way more extended coverage. Most private extra insurance is offered as an employment benefit and like in the USA is beyond affordability for most who might have to arrange their own coverage.ince of Saskatchewan but the provincial version of those socialists. They endured a long doctor's strike to force it through so the federal plan met less but still ferocious opposition from doctors.

All basic and most advanced procedures are covered and as Donna refers to above, everyone who is classified as needing it gets way more extended coverage. Most private extra insurance is offered as an employment benefit and like in the USA is beyond affordability for most who might have to arrange their own coverage.

That extra coverage is always the subject of political debate here, with progressives wanting to add more to the public plan and the neo-cons wanting to destroy the public plan altogether.

Yes, there are waiting times for some non-urgent things like knee replacements, but part of that problem is because we all can afford to get into the queue here while in the USA many just never bother for fear of bankruptcy.

MY personal story: in 2006 I fell and broke my arm. It was fixed involving three nights in the hospital and surgery. The only hint of mentioning, money was the hospital asking for my group (private employer) insurance number to cover a semi-private room, which is two beds instead of four in a room.

The doctor decided I should have an upper humerus replacement as the shoulder had been damaged in the fall. For his own reasons, he expedited the surgery and it was done 4 weeks later, altogether two months after my fall. That involved the operation and six nights in the hospital. Money was never mentioned in the whole thing and I had a lot of followup visits to his office after.

I think, in the USA the first part would have bankrupted me.

For all that, most of us are willing to wait in line for less urgent care. We could use more doctors, but we should look to the Cuban model, not the Usayan for clues in how to fix that.


Still, it's all an ongoing fight to hold our version of the neo-liberal Republicrats at bay.
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