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My doctor wants M4A

Posted by Indy! 
My doctor wants M4A
November 06, 2019 09:17PM
Just saw my doctor today and while we were chatting I asked him what he thought about M4A - for it, against it, what? BTW - he doesn't know my politics - in 20-25 years we might have discussed that once maybe and I don't let on my political leanings to people who's job it is to poke me, prod me, feed me or pay me. That's another Indy Rule we can talk about another time. Anywho - he's for it! Yes! He said straight up he wanted it because he was sick of dealing with insurance companies and having them steal from the system (that's how he put it too - they're STEALING from the system). He said we should be like all the other countries and either have straight Bernie-style M4A (although he didn't mention Bernie by name) or he had a plan of his own - gov't pays 70% and patients pay 30% (which would be fine by me too). If you need a profile on the guy - he's in his 70s, been a doctor 50 years and I'm pretty sure he's a wingnut on most other issues (from our one political conversation). After we discussed it he added the qualifier - not all doctors are for it though... So I said "you mean the doctors who are in it for the money... Some doctors get into medicine to help people - some get in it for money" He nodded...

Which led to the story of why HE became a doctor. His dad needed a lung transplant - this was when the operation was very rare - his father was one of the first people to get one. He was poor and his mother didn't have the money for the operation. She's on the phone with the doctor and he's giving her all the details - what needs to be done, how much it will cost, etc... She tells him they can't afford the operation and the doctor says " Don't worry - go to the synagogue and pray for your husband and for the operation to go smoothly and I will consider that payment in full" (!!!! eye popping smiley !!!!) Very generous offer! The doctor wanted to help - and he also wanted to have the lung transplant operation on his resumé - it was a rare thing and gave him higher status in the medical world. Anyway - she gets off the phone and she's so happy she's crying and my doctor (being her oldest son) says "Mom what's wrong? What happened?" She tells him what the doctor said and then she points to him and each of his brothers and says "All of you are going to be doctors so you can help people the way the doctor is going to help your father". And they did - even though they were poor they excelled in school and got scholarships to help them thru college. All of them became doctors except one who became a rabbi. His father had the operation and lived another 30 years - he outlived his mother.

Is that a great story or what? smiling smiley
Re: My doctor wants M4A
November 06, 2019 09:23PM
Great story!

I am sure he is not the lone doctor who is in favor of M4A. Not by a long shot.

Nurses all seem to be pretty much unanimously in favor of it.

Re: My doctor wants M4A
November 06, 2019 10:08PM
Thanks for sharing that, Indy. Great story.
Re: My doctor wants M4A
November 06, 2019 10:34PM
Your welcome!

I've known him forever - basically since I moved back down here from Jacksonville - and even though we always have a little friendly catch-up conversation and whatever else might be happening whenever we get together (sports talk, whatever), he never told me that story before. He got a little teary eyed at the end too. smiling smiley It really explains why he's such a great doctor - always looking to help, reasonably priced and I can trust him (literally) with my life.
Re: My doctor wants M4A
November 06, 2019 11:22PM
I know quite a few doctors. It's a fairly common story that they went into medicine because a family member was afflicted with a disease or condition that later became their specialty.

As for your doctor, Indy, as previously noted, no country on earth has "straight Bernie-style M4A". That your doc said he'd be happy with plan in which patients pay 30%, that doesn't sound like Bernie's plan at all. If people were required to pay 30% of their medical bill, a significant number of people would want private insurance to cover that 30% which could be an enormous bill if hospitalization is involved.

Also the fact that your doctor is in his seventies matters. If M4A as you and Bernie imagine it is complete bust, he doesn't have to worry. He's past retirement age anyway.




"White power! White power!" --Demented Racist Donald Trump


Re: My doctor wants M4A
November 06, 2019 11:53PM
go to the synagogue.....the tribe helping their own is nothing new. nor is their love for pushing socialism/communism in their host countries

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Re: My doctor wants M4A
November 07, 2019 12:17AM
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Curt Anderson
As for your doctor, Indy, as previously noted, no country on earth has "straight Bernie-style M4A".

So? We're supposed to be this "great" country yet we can't even get what these other places have. You D purists always aim as low as possible and are fine getting nothing.

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Curt
That your doc said he'd be happy with plan in which patients pay 30%, that doesn't sound like Bernie's plan at all. If people were required to pay 30% of their medical bill, a significant number of people would want private insurance to cover that 30% which could be an enormous bill if hospitalization is involved.

Read it again and then we'll talk. eye rolling smiley


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Curt
Also the fact that your doctor is in his seventies matters. If M4A as you and Bernie imagine it is complete bust, he doesn't have to worry. He's past retirement age anyway.


Same goes for you. So I guess you're on board now - glad to hear it!
Re: My doctor wants M4A
November 07, 2019 12:31AM
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Indy!
he had a plan of his own - gov't pays 70% and patients pay 30% (which would be fine by me too).

Finally, you are coming around to accepting a practical, feasible health care plan suggestions. As Victor Laszlo said, "Welcome back to the fight. This time I know our side will win."




"White power! White power!" --Demented Racist Donald Trump


Re: My doctor wants M4A
November 07, 2019 12:35AM
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"...and our side will die."


Re: My doctor wants M4A
November 07, 2019 12:49AM
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Ponderer
"...and our side will die."

You are a tad over-dramatic. It is not a death sentence if we don't get a Bernie-style M4A, death-to-private-insurance-companies health care plan. You should be more like that young lady who was protesting proposed Republican cuts to the ACA. She is in Biden's camp, in that she doesn't want Obamacare cut and probably would support strengthening it and broadening its reach.




"White power! White power!" --Demented Racist Donald Trump


Re: My doctor wants M4A
November 07, 2019 01:36AM
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) or he had a plan of his own - gov't pays 70% and patients pay 30% (which would be fine by me too).

This is why Indy is the worst fuking poster... he’s constantly contradicting himself...
Re: My doctor wants M4A
November 07, 2019 01:53AM
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Curt Anderson
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Indy!
he had a plan of his own - gov't pays 70% and patients pay 30% (which would be fine by me too).

Finally, you are coming around to accepting a practical, feasible health care plan suggestions. As Victor Laszlo said, "Welcome back to the fight. This time I know our side will win."



Strike two. smiling smiley
Re: My doctor wants M4A
November 07, 2019 01:54AM
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tuk22
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) or he had a plan of his own - gov't pays 70% and patients pay 30% (which would be fine by me too).

This is why Indy is the worst fuking poster... he’s constantly contradicting himself...


Strike one.

Got a lot of people with reading comprehension problems on the board today. smiling smiley
Re: My doctor wants M4A
November 07, 2019 01:54AM
"It is not a death sentence if we don't get a Bernie-style M4A" -Curt

For some, yes it will be. As it is now. Even Obamacare only lowered the number considerably. Tens of thousands still die annually for lack of access to medical attention because nothing covers them. For all manner of reasons inherent in the system. They have fallen through... The Doughnut Hole of the Sacrificially Denied. Valiant souls who sacrificed their lives in the service of perpetuating increased Profits for the health insurance industry. They died. So that CEOs could yacht.

Re: My doctor wants M4A
November 07, 2019 01:57AM
Got Tuk's death panel to deal with when you buy private insurance.
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