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Any liberals for Trump? (just me?)

Posted by angel.us 
Any liberals for Trump? (just me?)
October 05, 2017 10:20PM
7 things Trump is doing that liberals probably actually like

Eliza Relman
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There seems to be an infinite number of issues President Donald Trump and his liberal opposition vehemently disagree on.

But there are a handful of policies the new administration is championing that many liberals support, including large-scale infrastructure investment and paid family leave.

And recently, Trump has shown a willingness to deal with Democrats as Republicans frustrate him in Congress.

Here are seven things Trump has promised to do that Democrats support.

Scrapping the TPP

Donald Trump signing an executive order withdrawing the U.S. from the Trans-Pacific Partnership trade deal
President Donald Trump fulfilled his campaign promise to withdraw from the Trans-Pacific Partnership, which he's called a "rape of our country," during his first day in office.

The TPP — championed by President Barack Obama as an expansion of the North American Free Trade Agreement — was derided by many liberals, including Sens. Bernie Sanders and Elizabeth Warren, who argued that it would enrich American and foreign corporations at the expense of American workers, whose jobs would disappear and wages would decline.

Criticism of the TPP from both the political left and right forced Hillary Clinton to back away from her support for the deal during the presidential election.


A $1 trillion infrastructure plan

Donald Trump meets with union leadersGetty Images
In another break from Republican orthodoxy, Trump campaigned on the promise to invest billions of federal dollars in national infrastructure.

The president reiterated this priority during his speech to a joint session of Congress in late February, calling for a $1 trillion investment in "a new program of national rebuilding."

"Crumbling infrastructure will be replaced with new roads, bridges, tunnels, airports and railways, gleaming across our very, very beautiful land," Trump said.

Conservatives are deeply skeptical of the effort, but Democrats have long pushed for increased infrastructure spending. In January, Senate Democrats introduced a $1 trillion infrastructure building plan that they say will create 15 million jobs over a decade.


Guaranteed paid leave
Guaranteed paid leave
Ivanka TrumpMark Wilson/Getty Images
The US is the only industrialized country in the world that doesn't guarantee any kind of paid family leave on the federal level.

Republicans, including Vice President Mike Pence, have long fought all kinds of Democratic paid leave proposals. In a break from his party, Trump proposed six weeks of guaranteed paid maternity leave for biological mothers on the campaign trail. His daughter Ivanka Trump, a self-proclaimed champion of women's empowerment, has been credited with helping craft the policy.

During his address to a joint session of Congress on Tuesday night, Trump confirmed his commitment to paid leave, but seemingly tweaked it by using the phrase "new parents," rather than "mothers."

“My administration wants to work with members of both parties to make child care accessible and affordable,” Trump said, “to help ensure new parents that they have paid family leave.”

An economic policy scholar at the right-leaning American Enterprise Institute recently told The Washington Post that the administration is considering making the policy gender-neutral.



Laws to encourage women in STEM

Donald Trump signs bills to promote women in STEMZach Gibson/Getty Images
In February, Trump signed two bills aimed at promoting women in science, technology, engineering, and mathematics.

One measure — called INSPIRE — directs NASA to encourage women to pursue careers in science, math and engineering.

The other, called the Promoting Women in Entrepreneurship Act, authorizes the National Science Foundation to create programming to recruit and support women scientists to work in the commercial sphere.

And this week, Trump announced that he would direct $200 million a year education grants for woman and minorities interested in science.


Bombing the Syrian government

In this image from video provided by the U.S. Navy, the guided-missile destroyer USS Porter (DDG 78) launches a tomahawk land attack missile in the Mediterranean Sea, Friday, April 7, 2017.Mass Communication Specialist 3rd Class Ford Williams/U.S. Navy via AP
In April, following the Syrian government's chemical weapons attack on civilians, Trump struck a Syrian government air base with 59 cruise missiles.

While some on the left criticized the move as reckless, many prominent Democrats, including 30 Democratic senators and Hillary Clinton, applauded the strikes.

Suspending the federal debt ceiling and funding the government for three months in Hurricane Harvey aid package

Chuck Schumer and Donald Trump during a meeting in the Oval Office in September.Alex Wong/Getty Images
In early September, Trump struck a deal with top Democrats to extend the federal borrowing limit and fund the federal government — both for three months — and provide aid for Hurricane Harvey relief efforts. The deal was made over strong objections from Republican leadership.

While the legislation is nothing major, Democrats celebrated it.

A possible deal on DACA

Senate Minority Leader Chuck Schumer and House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi at a September 6 news conference about President Donald Trump's decision to end the Deferred Action for Childhood Arrivals (DACA) program.Aaron P. Bernstein/Getty
A week after his fiscal deal with Democrats, Trump invited House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi and Senate Majority Leader Chuck Schumer to the White House to negotiate on another issue — the Deferred Action for Childhood Arrivals program, which he had just announced his administration was rescinding.

The day after the meeting, Pelosi and Schumer claimed they had reached an agreement that would "enshrine the protections of DACA into law quickly, and to work out a package of border security, excluding the wall, that’s acceptable to both sides."

While Trump denied that they had reached a deal, he said that funding for his long-promised US-Mexico border wall "will come later" and claimed the country's 800,000 Dreamers "have nothing to worry about."

SEE ALSO: Bernie Sanders says he wants to work with Trump on a healthcare overhaul


From:
http://www.businessinsider.com/trump-policies-liberals-like-2017-2/#scrapping-the-tpp-1
Re: Any liberals for Trump? (just me?)
October 05, 2017 10:30PM
Proposals. He hasn't actually DONE any of those except the TPP and you can bet the house he didn't do that for liberals.

And do you really think anyone believes you're liberal? You're as wingnutty as they come, my Red friend.
Re: Any liberals for Trump? (just me?)
October 05, 2017 10:35PM
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Indy!
Proposals. He hasn't actually DONE any of those except the TPP and you can bet the house he didn't do that for liberals.

I don't care who he did it for - he did it!


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And do you really think anyone believes you're liberal? You're as wingnutty as they come, my Red friend.

That's cause you confuse socists & tag along p*$$!es (who believe anything ht gubmint says)
for liberals.

No, I am a liberal. But I am a JFK liberal, not an Obuma liberal.

(Don't even get me started on Burnie Sanderz. His socialist ideas are so old, they can't be liberal.)
Re: Any liberals for Trump? (just me?)
October 05, 2017 10:45PM
Liberal vs. Conservative

1-pro-choice or no choice for women (its godz choice)

2-legalize drugs or restrict choices
(yes, i believe in your right to rot your brain more)

3-universal healthcare or die fools
(obamacare sucks, not because universal healthcare is wrong, but because it didn't fix the problems)

4-welfare for the needy or die fools

5-{this is death penalty}
let someone rot in jail for life miserably or put them out of their misery & save tax payers money
(OK, you got me on this, I agree with the conservatives on)

6-{religion}
We're a nation of choice vs. we're a christian nation founded on judao/christian values


Other issues are 1st amendment, 2nd amendment. But these aren't liberal/conservative issues,
they're common sense issues. Only an idiot or tyrant would argue against them.

So point out one thing (other than noted by me, that you think I am so conservative on!
(You won't - cause you can't.)


If I close my eyes forever...
Will it all remain unchanged?
If I close my eyes forever...
Will it all remain the same?

Re: Any liberals for Trump? (just me?)
October 05, 2017 11:36PM
"Liberal" is not about parties or issues. It's about being progressive vs. conservative (or regressive.) To address your nuttiness...

1. The majority of Americans are pro-choice - the dividing line is religion, not politics. Even the douchebag occupying the Oval Office was pro-choice until someone told him he'd never get elected as a Red unless he changed his tune.

2. Again - the majority of Americans want to end the drug war. That doesn't make you "liberal".

3. LOL! That's funny - you think the ACA is "universal healthcare".

4. Hasn't been an issue since Bill Clinton - a "liberal" going by your definition - ended welfare back in the 1990s.

5. Your true colors out in the open (as opposed to hiding behind the "issues" in 1-4 that both parties agree on.)

6. Merely bringing up religion as if that is something political tells us you're a wingnut. The country wasn't founded on Christian principles (quite the opposite - a good portion of the Founders were atheists or agnostic - they were ESCAPING religion in many cases)

Bottom line? You're a wingnut. That's why you watch Fox and regurgitate their crapola on the board all day. There is nothing even the slightest bit "liberal" about you. Like all wingnuts - you know you're wrong and you're ashamed of it... that's why you pretend to be "liberal". I've seen this many times on the internet - very common amongst the Red Party.
Re: Any liberals for Trump? (just me?)
October 05, 2017 11:52PM
liberal - base word liberty? if so, today's liberals are mislabeled. when libertarians were known as liberals the label was accurate

modern liberals need a new name. what's the opposite of liberty? maybe we can come up with something

liberals - forced vaccinations

liberals - forced globalist warming religion

liberals - forced statism religion in skoolz

liberals - demand stripping people of free speech

liberals - demand infringing on 2nd

i could go on....but think the point is easily made

new name?

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Re: Any liberals for Trump? (just me?)
October 06, 2017 12:40AM
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txcup
liberal - base word liberty? if so, today's liberals are mislabeled. when libertarians were known as liberals the label was accurate

modern liberals need a new name. what's the opposite of liberty? maybe we can come up with something

Socialist!?! grinning smiley
Re: Any liberals for Trump? (just me?)
October 06, 2017 01:14AM
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Indy!
"Liberal" is not about parties or issues. It's about being progressive vs. conservative (or regressive.)

I agree, & I'll admit that by today's standards I'd be moderate.

(Still, I am a liberal by choice. Though people I meet tell me I'm Libertarian.)


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To address your nuttiness...

Oh, please do. This should be entertaining.


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1. The majority of Americans are pro-choice - the dividing line is religion, not politics.

Yes, but if republicans & conservatives had their way they (& their god) would make the choice for,
or your wife, or your sister, or your mother, or your daughter, or your neighbor.

Bottom line is: the supreme court is what stops them (state by state) from stopping someone from making
that choice for that said woman.

(And I am not saying abortion is morally correct choice - just that is is a choice a woman has to make.
Not me, not a politician, & not even god either. It has no bearing on me what she does.)


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Even the douchebag occupying the Oval Office was pro-choice until someone told him he'd never get elected as a Red unless he changed his tune.

That's only part of the story.

This tells more on Trump's opinion:
[www.washingtonpost.com]

But if I remember correctly, him watching a video on what happens during an abortion
helped change his mind. (Cause it's easy to turn a blind eye to something you haven't seen.)


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Again - the majority of Americans want to end the drug war. That doesn't make you "liberal".

Somewhat!

Most people are liberal in the US. This is why a true conservative will have a hard time running for president,
and they have to push more moderately liberal candidates (George W. Bush).

And the notion of choice is a liberal one. (You can't deny that.)
A government telling you what you can or can't do is an age-old conservative notion.


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3. LOL! That's funny - you think the ACA is "universal healthcare".

No, I think it's a pathetic attempt at pleasing both sides.

And you know what they say when you try to please everyone,
you make everyone mad.

Actually, in this case; it was a way to make the health insurance companies happy.
(Something that would get them more customers.)

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4. Hasn't been an issue since Bill Clinton - a "liberal" going by your definition - ended welfare back in the 1990s.

It is always an issue. (Ignored, but still an issue.)
Why the heck do you think people are so passionate about losing or keeping Obamacare?

But that's only part of what we need to do for the poor. (It's a long list!)


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5. Your true colors out in the open (as opposed to hiding behind the "issues" in 1-4 that both parties agree on.)

But they don't agree on it. Republicaz/cnservativez do not truly agree with it.
Nor do demz even really care. They put on a big pretense.

If they really cared, welfare reform
would have been written a lot better & in a way that actually helps people.


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Merely bringing up religion as if that is something political tells us you're a wingnut. The country wasn't founded on Christian principles (quite the opposite - a good portion of the Founders were atheists or agnostic - they were ESCAPING religion in many cases)

That's exactly what I've been say for many many years now.
(Of course I don't expect you to pay attenion.)

But conservativez & religious fanaticz want to believe & try to sell the principle that
we are a christian nation, or more moderate one's will say we were founded on judao/christian values.

Anyone who values their religion over others is using a conservative mentality


Another thing, though, that I have to disagree with modern liberals on
is their defense on Islam. Islam is the most anti-liberal notion ever.
(But before I read the Koran I did defend it.)

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Bottom line? You're a wingnut.

Bottom line is, just cause you say something doesn't mean it's true.

At least I can actually defend what I believe in. You never have even tried to
defend your absurd notion of being a liberal.


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That's why you watch Fox and regurgitate their crapola on the board all day.

Just for the record, I haven't watched Fox news in months.
Crappy Dish network doesn't have it on their basic package,
but more so I am so sick of the news. So the finger smiley to you.


[/quote]There is nothing even the slightest bit "liberal" about you. Like all wingnuts - you know you're wrong and you're ashamed of it... that's why you pretend to be "liberal". I've seen this many times on the internet - very common amongst the Red Party.[/quote]

You sound like you're talking about yourself. Because, again, I have not seen you try to explain
what is so liberal about Indy? Hmmm? grinning smiley


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